Armed with Care Bear Stare

[00:00] I was a little late, but that's why we double button right
[00:06] We can't sure we should definitely because I I came in a little little sluggish on that one. All right, you ready? Yeah
[00:19] three two one
[00:24] That felt real good though felt strong that nailed it nailed it
[00:30] All right, Coalson you called this meeting for an under Google Bowl
[00:54] That was the play of super excited told us we had to
[01:01] We signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you how can we help you this week?
[01:11] Well, you know, it's actually it's funny. We did an under Google just the other week and
[01:17] During that under Google. There's an under Google within under Google. We didn't deal with at the time. I
[01:24] Think Harper brought up spitballing and
[01:28] He said that's another Google Bowl, but we didn't have time
[01:31] we just had to sit and wait and we asked the
[01:34] listeners to sit and wait to not Google it I
[01:38] Didn't Google it Harper didn't Google it Joey didn't listen to the show. So I know he didn't Google it and
[01:45] I think we're all back here together waiting for this answer. So
[01:49] Joey since this we're throwing this on you
[01:52] You know that you've not
[01:55] Didn't even know that this was gonna be the end of Google or even something that you've thought of recently
[02:02] Can you give me a definition of spitballing? I
[02:06] Mean, yeah, so essentially I always felt that it was like I mean, it's kind of like our show right? Like you just it's just a bunch of
[02:15] It's it's kind of off the cuff it's maybe not well thought out
[02:22] Maybe one person's got a great voice and there's other people
[02:25] For reasons unknown, I
[02:29] Mean it's it's a good recruit better talent
[02:36] No, no, I mean it's it's
[02:42] I mean, yeah, it's it's sort of like it's sort of a lot of like a sort of stream of consciousness
[02:46] You're figuring something out as you're as you're saying and essentially
[02:50] You know, it's sort of on the fly
[02:53] And you know not a like well-researched plan
[02:57] You know, but something that you're sort of coming up with on nothing
[03:00] Not that it can't be like the right answer for whatever you're talking about but but you know
[03:06] It's something that you're coming up with in the moment. Sure. So it's coming up with on the fly
[03:13] It's is it is it dreamboarding is that a thing or
[03:17] Or
[03:19] Maybe
[03:21] sounds like a thing, but
[03:23] Don't think that's the same. You know what? I think that's what the
[03:28] My little pony does like instead of waterboarding, right?
[03:32] That's exactly right. I call it. That's my understand call it dreamboarding. They invert them and then they like kind of force-feed dreams
[03:39] Into their nose or something. Yeah
[03:42] Okay
[03:44] Right, I think it is. Yeah, you're right. I think that's the correct it. We don't have to look up dreamboarding because that's what that is
[03:51] Harper initial thoughts on spitball
[03:57] Dreamboarding
[04:00] Should probably take a look at the Geneva Convention. Apparently that's not in force wherever than my little ponies are
[04:09] Part of the UN I don't know
[04:12] Who's the other who's like the rainbow rainbow rainbow bright, I can't remember the
[04:18] Care Bears is care bears for sure care bears. Definitely. Those are
[04:23] Let's let's let's cut to mostly war criminals, right? All of them to a man. Yeah to a care bear care bear stare is definitely
[04:32] non-consensual
[04:35] It's what got them canceled right like
[04:38] Shoot each other with death rays
[04:41] Well, no, I mean when when some drunk dudes are given the care bear stare at the bar
[04:45] I definitely cut them off and kick them out. Do they call it? Do they call it the care bear stare? I
[04:51] Think you should probably yeah, if they call it that you should just save yourself some trouble and just not let them in the bar
[04:56] They're yeah coming in armed with some care bears there
[05:00] Armed with care bear. Sarah's gotta be the name of the
[05:04] We're not even halfway through though. So who knows? All right. Well, who cares what the answer is. We've got a title
[05:09] Let's just move on
[05:11] Well, thanks for showing up
[05:14] Thanks for logging in under beatables fans
[05:21] So, yeah, I agree with Joey on that
[05:26] At least partly for me as part of a creative process, but I don't know if that was part of its, you know
[05:31] Original meeting, you know, it's sort of you know, you're out there spitball and you're talking through it
[05:36] So they're kind of you're workshopping it, right? I think that's what you were getting at with the dreamboarding thing. I think yeah, I think so. Yeah
[05:44] It's there no bad ideas. Everything goes on the whiteboard. I don't know. I
[05:49] Yeah, I mean there's definitely bad ideas, but oh
[05:53] I've had plenty already today
[05:58] So
[05:59] Things that come to my mind
[06:02] Spitball I feel like you would shoot a spitball at a teacher through a straw you do and then also is that a
[06:10] Pitch in baseball it is
[06:15] It's yeah sort of like
[06:19] Fork ball, it's just junk, right?
[06:22] So is it like a is it like a curve ball? It's got a it's got movement on it. Yeah, okay
[06:28] It's not a curve ball, but it has all
[06:30] Well, we also like used something on there, right? Let's I'm assuming you spit on it. Yeah
[06:38] To make it would you spit your spit your
[06:42] tobacco
[06:44] On it to give that would be very obvious because it's not clear
[06:52] So probably not that
[06:54] But yeah spitballs are definitely junk
[06:56] I don't know if they had rules outlawing those things, you know back in the early 1900s when
[07:03] You know whoever it was thought up the spitball
[07:07] So are you spitting on your hand? Are you actually spitting on the ball in the spitball? I think you spit on your hand and
[07:15] You know, it's gonna create a little bit a little bit of extra movement on the ball for you
[07:20] Okay, sure. It makes it slightly slippery or whatever when you when you release it
[07:25] Mmm, yeah or more tacky. I don't know how to think more tacky is how it's gonna work on the ball
[07:31] Okay, but it probably doesn't just need to be saliva
[07:34] I think you know guys guys now use foreign substances like pine tar is that does that show up?
[07:40] Is that a discoloration of the ball?
[07:43] I mean I clearly they have made something that you can't see very well because
[07:48] You know guys have tried to use all sorts of stuff over the years pictures are very good use
[07:53] Anything they can do you remember when Dwight Howard got caught with stick them when he was rebounding balls
[08:00] Like is it that sort of thing? Yeah, which I'm still not sure why that was wrong
[08:04] I mean, what why is it a why are you allowed to like have the ball stick to you?
[08:09] I mean football players do I mean, is there something I apparently there's something in the NBA rules
[08:14] It says you can't use stick them. I mean, it's a product that is marketed to professional athletes already, right?
[08:20] Also, it would make it hard to do other like pass the ball. I mean he already couldn't shoot he could dunk
[08:33] Grab the ball and throw it back down
[08:35] But I say you got to get the ball out of those hands, right?
[08:38] Yeah, right
[08:39] But like I mean if I use stick them I could palm the ball better and then just like Michael Jordan that ball through
[08:44] The hoop right because that's what you're missing is palming the ball
[08:47] I mean I can do it if it's wet, you know, that's the difference that that's the only thing that you would need to be able to do
[08:54] In order to be an NBA athlete. Yeah
[08:58] It helps yeah, I've I've the hands of a
[09:03] Dunker
[09:04] Yeah, you have the vertical of a sitter
[09:09] Have the knee of a sitter
[09:14] Okay, but yeah, those were definitely the two things that came to mind for me
[09:18] I mean with the you know spit balling, you know, you miss your teacher it goes and sticks against the blackboard, right?
[09:24] So you're throwing stuff up against the wall. Oh
[09:27] That certainly made sense
[09:29] Yeah, it's never as literal as I want it to be. So I'm going baseball. We haven't had baseball
[09:37] Ever have we ever had we should have
[09:40] Feel like we must it's not been enough. Yeah
[09:43] It's the American past. It's like nobody cares about right. It's like woven into our society, right?
[09:48] Like yeah baseball came up with the high-five like, you know, it's the best
[09:55] Is it I don't know probably not. Yeah, we do a basketball podcast. There's a reason for that. Oh
[10:01] Oh that although they they they they're speeded up, you know
[10:05] They widened the bases and put on a pitch clock and now now the game is exciting. They widened the bases bases. Yeah. Yeah
[10:14] What does that the bases are just bigger steels are up? Yeah
[10:19] Well, I think it's me the bases bigger. Yeah, what did I say? I mean you said they made them wider
[10:25] I say they widened them. Yeah, how much did they widen them? They've made them bigger
[10:30] How much did they make them bigger? I don't know. I don't care about baseball. What do you want? Well, I'm just wondering I mean
[10:38] It's 90 feet between bases. Like how big do you have to make that base in order to appreciably cut down that distance?
[10:50] Like a tarmac
[10:52] They went from 15 square inches to 18. See that's that's significant
[10:58] Is it?
[10:59] Yeah
[11:01] For grabbing a base for sliding into a base for I mean, I never saw guys go out and just miss the base
[11:09] oh, they also I guess it also means that
[11:15] the
[11:17] measurements between
[11:20] Bases is three shorter, right?
[11:24] But I mean the speed at which they're traveling three inches is like
[11:28] These are the best athletes in the world. That's gonna matter
[11:31] Well, actually baseball players aren't that never mind?
[11:36] Yeah, I don't know that stretch I'll look into that later that has nothing I
[11:40] Don't think it's from base dealing spitballing
[11:44] They also be in the shift which I don't know if you guys yeah, I
[11:49] That's the thing that changed the scoring, right?
[11:52] Yeah, I don't I don't know. I feel like maybe they could just learn how to hit better
[11:56] I mean, that's my thing
[11:57] It's like, you know guys got good at math and they were like, oh, yeah, we don't do math here
[12:03] Gotta yeah, it's like the equivalent of a legal defense in the NBA
[12:07] Yeah
[12:08] It's like just be better
[12:11] Right be best
[12:14] That is not the MLB's products
[12:20] Okay, we've lost the thread here spitball I'm going baseball I'm going baseball, you know
[12:27] 18 early 1900s, you know throw thrown it up there. It's like God's junk, right?
[12:32] It's just you're just throwing up like oh, we're throwing up junk and seeing what you can hit. Yeah
[12:38] Yeah, I mean some of those some of the pitches like the
[12:43] Well, it's like the knuckleball. I mean pitcher doesn't know where it's going catch
[12:47] You don't know what's going, you know, they got a that means the batter doesn't know where it's going. So you know
[12:53] You got a everyone's got to just deal with that. Is that where knucklehead comes from?
[12:57] Side question. It's next week's under Google. Yeah
[13:03] We could chain these together. Yeah. Yeah, we could do a whole baseball thing. We could daisy chain them. Yeah
[13:09] Also, we need to look up that
[13:12] Yes
[13:13] All right, Joey. Do you have something different between?
[13:16] Late 19th century baseball terminology the other one we did you meant you mentioned like the
[13:25] You know a lot of paper, right? Like
[13:29] That's sort of the same idea right like you
[13:33] You know if it sticks up on a board like a top board or something like that
[13:37] Like if you were in school the same idea. Yeah, no, it's it's what sticks, right? Right on some level
[13:44] That's pretty good. I guess if you if it's if that's what it is if it's like a like a straw and a piece of
[13:54] Salivated paper
[13:58] You care less about if it sticks I guess so what was so when when is
[14:05] When are straws like plastics we're talking about the 1950s is that with spitballs coming in?
[14:10] Yeah, I would say large-scale plastics
[14:15] 50s probably. Yeah, they didn't use paper straws back then. Yeah, I know
[14:21] Don't bring that up
[14:24] Don't pick a pace of paper straws. It's a source of tension in all restaurants in the United States right now
[14:30] Is it still my god? I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, wait, dude
[14:35] Uh, but now we both want to
[14:39] So the last so two restaurants ago
[14:43] Um, we use paper straws and it was a constant fight and I was constant fighting people
[14:48] Be like do you not care about the turtles and do you not care about the earth and you know, you're trying to
[14:53] Oh, I was definitely talking to me. Well and now and then you know, of course, uh, you know
[14:59] Mikado we we tried not to offer those things as well
[15:03] um, and then uh now I work in a place without with cocktails without cocktail straws
[15:09] And that's a huge ordeal as well
[15:12] Um, really? Oh my god, dude
[15:17] It's a constant fight it's a constant I would the little tiny cocktail straws. Yeah, I would never notice that
[15:25] Yeah, well, uh, you're not a woman with lipstick apparently
[15:29] So true, this is that's a fair point
[15:33] It's a lot of work, uh to argue this all the time and i'm just mean to people now and it's
[15:39] It's not can't you just say we don't have those and yeah, I say I say
[15:43] Quit being that no
[15:47] No, I I just say hey look we're trying to save the earth and you clearly don't care about the earth
[15:53] Very diplomatic nicely done tip. Yeah, so tip me more
[15:59] Why don't you think about somebody beside yourself?
[16:03] That's what I think what I say tips are just rolling in
[16:08] We tip pool. So i'm doing everybody loves it when I work. Oh, okay
[16:12] Everybody loves it when I work
[16:15] All right. What do we got for spitballing? Oh, I didn't I didn't give my option. Um, i'm going with um,
[16:21] I like both of those but I feel like they're the most too obvious
[16:25] so
[16:26] uh, i'm gonna go with
[16:28] it was a
[16:29] corporate bonding experience
[16:33] in the uh
[16:36] Oh, i'm gonna i'm gonna say henry ford henry ford
[16:40] um
[16:41] And uh, everybody spit on a ball and then they rolled it across america
[16:48] Somehow connected to automation
[16:53] Okay
[16:55] I think we absolutely crushed this. Okay
[16:59] What do you everything is pointing back to?
[17:02] A moistening of baseball or a salivated paper wad
[17:08] Do we have do we have a a actual answer as opposed to just everybody's theory on the internet though?
[17:15] Well, i'll give you the information as I stumble across it here. So in 1911 mlb banned the spitball
[17:20] So we're definitely talking about early 1900s
[17:23] Okay
[17:25] Miriam webster says
[17:28] The earliest uses of the word have been largely overlooked on june 30 1794 isak bowler shopkeeper in hartford, connecticut
[17:36] Placed an ad in a local newspaper for many items
[17:40] That one might well expect
[17:43] In new england. He advertised that he was selling a spitball
[17:50] so that was for
[17:52] appears to have something used for blacking of shoes not classroom pranks. Yeah
[17:57] but it's also not
[18:00] Really demonstrated this like
[18:02] Why would be called that at all? No, not at all. But by the 1830s
[18:07] Kids had made the spitball kids are very ingenuitive
[18:12] Mm-hmm
[18:14] Basically, it was yeah, it still wasn't used in that sense until the beginning of the 20th century
[18:21] When pip when when pitchers discovered that adding a little saliva to their baseball would cause it to behave in an unpredictable fashion
[18:27] So, how did we get from
[18:31] 1832 baseball in the
[18:36] Early 1900s we're we're just crossing base. We're just coincidences
[18:41] These are totally unrelated items
[18:44] Yeah, so it didn't actually enter parlance in its current form until the early 1900s
[18:49] and
[18:51] They think from
[18:52] The baseball because those those two things happen in close approximation
[18:58] Its early uses a didn't make any sense
[19:02] Well, so are you on right are you on marion dictionary? Yeah
[19:07] Okay
[19:08] So they're just basically children
[19:11] Or spitting on stuff and throwing it. Well, so that's the second thing that happened in the 1830s
[19:17] um
[19:18] Right the this first instance was in the 1790s
[19:22] Then kids made up spitballs, but they weren't using it in any
[19:26] you know
[19:28] particularly figure
[19:30] Not in any yeah generally figurative way that that stuck so then it fell out of favor again and
[19:37] Came back in the early 1900s. So in the sense that we know it today
[19:43] Yeah, early 1900s. I think we got it
[19:46] Wow
[19:47] It's all connected, but it's all unconnected
[19:50] Uh, I mean the three instances seem to yeah, we're describing different things and it you know
[19:54] It hit the actual vernacular from baseball it seemed from baseball. Yeah
[20:00] Okay
[20:02] Uh nailed it
[20:04] Crushed it crushed it don't even need the internet
[20:08] You know what? I'm not going to say this thing internet. I love you, baby
[20:12] I wouldn't say I would never say I don't need you
[20:17] You're just waiting for the aa takeover. You're just hoping they listen to this
[20:22] Oh, i've been replaced by ai
[20:24] Years ago. Yeah
[20:26] Chat chat gpt is very confused about who we are
[20:30] Oh, yeah, yeah
[20:33] Because we're still speaking the truth. Is that why no, it just it knows who the unbeatables are
[20:38] But it just it always has like four people who are not us
[20:43] As what
[20:45] Who are the four people is is it my like?
[20:48] Future self their manager. Yeah
[20:51] Uh, no the person I aspire to be
[20:56] No
[20:57] I mean, maybe I don't I just I don't know who the people's are is kevin something
[21:00] I don't know I can I can I can ask chad gbd
[21:04] This is kevin bacon. Okay?
[21:06] Undebutables are a group of four indiana. This is barred
[21:10] Okay, mike well's zach low
[21:13] It's so nice
[21:16] Uh, chris denary and brian shaw. Well, okay. This is a different list. They're all famous
[21:21] This is a much better list than I got from chad gpt. That's a really that's a really good show
[21:26] We should listen to that. Yeah, we should
[21:29] Our friends our listeners should subscribe to that show
[21:36] We've listened we've uh listed a little people on our show. Is that how this works?
[21:42] Uh, I I will say the chat gpt is always very nice. They say very nice
[21:47] Things about us. Oh, they like our show. Do they? Yeah, very much. Chat gpt is very friendly
[21:52] because
[21:52] Because zach low runs the thing instead of Joey
[21:57] Oh, no
[21:59] Okay, so mine i'm reading this here. So
[22:02] I don't even want to read this to you
[22:04] So this is the unbeatable sub podcast and blog that covers the indiana pacer's basketball team
[22:09] It is not a reference to a specific
[22:12] group of people or team
[22:14] The name is a play on words combining undefeated and i've seen i've seen though
[22:20] That's really good. I see a different turn on that thing. Very clever
[22:24] And it represents that even when the pacers lose
[22:27] Their fans still support them. That's very good
[22:31] The pacers and the blog basis blog are hosted by four friends who are diehard pacer fans
[22:41] I'm serious Joey
[22:43] Jason
[22:45] Tim and Harper. Yeah, that's what I got this time too. I corrected it like five times. So I think it finally got it
[22:51] I'm very happy
[22:53] Tim
[22:54] I'm tim
[22:55] Yeah, they discussed the team's performance players and other aspects of pacer's basketball. We got 75 of the way there
[23:03] Saying hey, look i've always felt like I was the least important person on this show
[23:07] I just feel bad that this is how you found out
[23:10] I
[23:14] Got you got fired by ai, dude
[23:17] Yeah, I don't know who tim is but i'm sure he'll be great next week
[23:22] Yeah
[23:23] All right, so we answered your question. Great