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Episode 171 · February 25, 2023

Way to Surprise Us, Humanity

A minister says he's at the end of his rope, and the hosts try to figure out which rope it is.

“I'm going 1600s, comma, fat.” (08:21)

Questions

Where does the phrase "at the end of my rope" come from? (00:32)

Our guess
A climber, a hanging, a nautical rope or a cowboy's lasso running out, from the 1600s-1800s.
Reveal the answer
The answer
It alludes to a tether, a rope tied to an animal to keep it from wandering, so at the end of its tether it has run out of options. It has been used since the late 1600s, and "at the end of one's tether" is the primarily British version.
Verdict partly

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Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] Well, since this game is out of hand, should we do an under-google?
[00:02] Yeah, I think we should.
[00:03] Ooh, should we do an under-google-ables?
[00:17] That was the play of it.
[00:18] Super excited.
[00:19] You told us we had to, sir.
[00:21] So we said we signed up for it.
[00:26] In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you.
[00:32] At church this morning, shout out to Pentecost.
[00:35] Shout out, Jabez.
[00:37] And the minister said that he was at the end of his rope.
[00:45] Ooh, this is going to get morbid fast.
[00:48] Yeah, this is not going to be good, man.
[00:51] And I thought, when I hear that phrase, I've always envisioned someone like climbing down
[01:03] like a cliffside and then running out of rope.
[01:07] And so they're kind of just stuck there.
[01:08] But that's what I envision.
[01:11] But that's not what the phrase means, right?
[01:14] It means that you're exhausted and frustrated and angry.
[01:18] The end of your rope is something else than just running out of rope while you're descending
[01:25] a mountain.
[01:27] So what do you guys think?
[01:28] I mean, you would probably be frustrated and angry and not wanting to continue on if you
[01:34] were on a mountain and you ran out of rope.
[01:37] That's always what I envisioned.
[01:38] And I just wondered if that was right or whether I'm just envisioning the wrong things.
[01:43] That is one possibility of where one would use rope and running out of it would be a
[01:49] bad thing.
[01:50] That would be a bad thing.
[01:51] When you said it, my mind immediately went to hanging.
[01:54] Yeah, me too.
[01:55] Me as well.
[01:56] So, but why would that be the end of your rope?
[02:04] You are on the end of that rope.
[02:06] It's over, son.
[02:08] Okay, so maybe it was easy?
[02:13] Well, I mean, but at the same, it's different, right?
[02:18] That's what I'm saying.
[02:19] Like the cinema, I mean, you know, it's just, it's, you know, like you think like a parent
[02:24] would say this, like, all right, kid, I'm at the end of my rope.
[02:27] Yeah.
[02:28] Meaning I'm done.
[02:29] Yeah.
[02:30] Yeah.
[02:31] I'm over this thing.
[02:32] Yeah.
[02:33] Quit being a brat.
[02:34] Otherwise I'm going to lose my shit.
[02:35] Right?
[02:36] Or I'm going to string you up.
[02:37] Put you on the end of a rope.
[02:38] Yeah.
[02:39] No, but that's, I'm, it's not, the phrase isn't, you know, I'm going to put you on
[02:42] the end of a rope.
[02:43] The phrase isn't, you're at the end of your rope.
[02:44] Right.
[02:45] It's at the, I'm at the end of my rope.
[02:46] Right.
[02:47] Or you're at the end of my rope.
[02:48] Right.
[02:49] It's not that phrase either.
[02:50] Okay.
[02:51] You're at the end of my rope would be a different thing.
[02:53] Right.
[02:54] Well, cause I was also thinking like, you know, like when you throw a line to somebody
[03:00] in the water, you know, and like, it's just not long enough and you're like, I'm
[03:06] at the end of my rope.
[03:07] Yeah, I hate it when that happens.
[03:08] Yeah, exactly.
[03:09] Like, I can't quite get them.
[03:10] Can't quite catch them.
[03:11] I'm at the end of my rope.
[03:12] It's as long as my rope goes.
[03:14] So I was thinking it might be something nautical, but yeah, less that maybe then, you
[03:19] know, there are complex knots and things that sometimes need to be done.
[03:24] And so if you don't have enough rope to complete whatever you're doing, that would be very
[03:31] frustrating and potentially very dangerous or the, or you're in too deep of water such
[03:37] that the anchor won't, can't go to the bottom or something like that.
[03:41] That's the thing.
[03:42] That's the thing.
[03:43] Or maybe it's, maybe it's pirates keel hauling people.
[03:46] I don't know.
[03:47] It's always keel hauler.
[03:54] I hope it's pirates.
[03:55] Is there a way this could be falconry?
[03:57] Is this like a...
[03:58] Why not?
[03:59] A little falcon leash.
[04:01] Yeah, the old falcon leash.
[04:04] Falcons at the end of his rope can't go any further.
[04:09] What about that?
[04:10] What about like animals, like a dog?
[04:14] Or like, you know, or cattle wrangling.
[04:18] Or like cowboys.
[04:21] Like cowboys.
[04:22] Like if I've got my...
[04:25] Is that like your catchphrase after you like rope the bull?
[04:29] I got him on the end of my rope.
[04:31] But see, that would be like a positive thing.
[04:34] Yeah.
[04:37] When do we think this came about?
[04:39] Have people been using this since like the middle ages?
[04:44] When were kids invented?
[04:46] Yeah.
[04:47] When did parents start being at the end of their rope?
[04:58] Rope goes back a long, long time.
[05:00] Right, Harper?
[05:01] I mean, rope is like one of the first things.
[05:03] Yeah.
[05:04] As soon as you could braid things, you probably want to make rope.
[05:07] Yeah.
[05:12] This is like pre-civilization.
[05:13] We have rope.
[05:14] Yeah.
[05:15] Yeah.
[05:16] Agreed.
[05:17] And also, even if you didn't make rope at that point, you still could use vines and
[05:20] things like rope.
[05:21] Right.
[05:22] Right.
[05:23] I think it's one of the first human tools, probably.
[05:32] Yes.
[05:33] Along with the bucket.
[05:34] That's right.
[05:35] That's right.
[05:36] It's like ropes and buckets.
[05:37] Ropes and buckets.
[05:38] Ropes and buckets.
[05:39] We're the technology and a wheel for like millennia.
[05:42] We had fire.
[05:43] I think that would get you...
[05:44] Nice.
[05:45] That definitely gets you in a better place from where you were.
[05:48] Ropes?
[05:49] Ropes and buckets and wheels?
[05:50] Oh, yeah.
[05:51] No, I think things are...
[05:52] Things are getting better.
[05:53] Yeah.
[05:54] Things are happening.
[05:55] So, okay.
[05:56] So, I suppose...
[05:57] Well, okay.
[05:58] Maybe that's it, right?
[05:59] So, if you spend a bunch of time making rope, and then you need to do this project, and
[06:03] you didn't make enough rope, and you're like, God damn it, I need the 50 feet.
[06:08] I only made 40 feet.
[06:09] Exactly.
[06:10] I'm at the end of my rope.
[06:11] So, maybe this is very early on, because there's not infinite rope.
[06:13] It's like, it's just the rope that we have in the town.
[06:16] It's just, it's only 40 feet.
[06:17] Yeah.
[06:18] You're not going to the hardware store and picking up more rope.
[06:20] Right.
[06:21] Okay, so what are we...
[06:22] Certainly.
[06:23] Was it infinite rope?
[06:24] One of your bands?
[06:25] I'm going to go 1700s.
[06:34] I feel like, you know, maybe it was a vernacular thing, but I still think somehow this is probably
[06:41] nautical.
[06:42] So, I'm thinking British 1700s during their maritime heyday.
[06:47] I like that.
[06:48] I like that.
[06:49] I'm going to go with the Wild West.
[06:51] I'm going to go, this is a lasso cowboy thing.
[06:55] Their rope is long enough to catch the cow.
[07:00] Based on the history of the under Googles, I'm going to say that this was middle ages
[07:06] and it refers to dangings.
[07:09] I think you're probably right.
[07:12] Joey, do you have another opinion on this?
[07:14] I like all of these.
[07:18] None of them are descending a mountain, though, with the side of the mountain, wasn't it?
[07:23] No.
[07:24] Like, people trying to climb Everest.
[07:27] Yeah, and I feel like it's ambiguous enough that it's not super recent, so I'm going
[07:33] to go...
[07:34] Oh, well, like, what do you mean ambiguous enough?
[07:36] Like, rope is ambiguous?
[07:37] Well, no.
[07:38] I mean, for me, it's not super obvious to me.
[07:47] This also could be, like, a French animal or something.
[07:51] You know, we've had several of those, like, where it's just turned into something good.
[07:56] Sure.
[07:58] What about when they used to have people's belts were made of rope?
[08:03] Oh, you think people were, like, taking off their belts and hooking up or something?
[08:07] Or I'm at the end of my rope?
[08:09] No, I was thinking, like, I got too fat to make my belt work anymore.
[08:13] Okay.
[08:14] Okay.
[08:15] I mean, that's...
[08:16] It's not bad.
[08:17] It does.
[08:18] It's understandable.
[08:19] I'm going to go with 1600s.
[08:21] My belt doesn't fit anymore because I got...
[08:24] 1600s?
[08:25] Fat.
[08:26] Fat.
[08:27] Okay.
[08:28] I'm changing my pick.
[08:29] It's not...
[08:30] It's not...
[08:31] You can have cowboys if you want.
[08:32] I'm going 1600s fat.
[08:33] You're going 1600s, comma, fat.
[08:34] I'm going 1800s, comma, cowboys.
[08:35] Cowboys.
[08:36] Okay.
[08:37] I think we're all going to spy here as you google this.
[08:42] Well, we're dancing around it there.
[08:45] What I'm reading is that the idiom alludes to a tether, which is a rope tied to an animal
[08:54] to limit its movement and keep it from wandering off.
[08:58] The animal can only graze as far as the rope allows.
[09:01] Thus, once it has reached the end of its tether, it has run out of options and resources
[09:06] and is bound to become frustrated.
[09:09] We did dance around that without getting it.
[09:12] We used it since the late 1600s.
[09:16] That was according to idioms online.
[09:19] 1600s.
[09:20] But it wasn't fat, though.
[09:22] It was animals.
[09:23] No.
[09:24] That's correct.
[09:25] Right.
[09:26] Had we known that a sister phrase of this is at the end of one's tether, we may have
[09:31] found this quite a lot easier.
[09:33] Oh, that would have been a lot easier.
[09:34] Yeah.
[09:35] I did not know that that was a phrase.
[09:36] We don't hang out with enough British people.
[09:38] You know the Brits are saying that.
[09:40] There's no Americans saying tether.
[09:41] I'm at the end of my tether.
[09:44] Tether is a British phrase.
[09:47] The end of one's tether is primarily a British phrase from the old Swedish word
[09:51] Törðr.
[09:52] I pronounced that perfectly.
[09:55] Sure.
[09:56] The idea...
[09:57] I thought...
[09:58] I found at least one example of someone claiming that the idiom is of someone
[10:08] who has been thrown a safety rope and has run out of length.
[10:13] So that's at least close to Coalson's life.
[10:20] But none of these are about hangings, apparently.
[10:23] No.
[10:24] Surprisingly, yeah.
[10:25] Way to surprise us, humanity.
[10:29] It's the first time.
[10:30] Good job, people.
[10:33] So we're going with 1600s?
[10:36] Yep.
[10:37] Yep.
[10:38] And tethered animals.
[10:39] Tethered animals.
[10:40] 16...
[10:41] So my guess is that it was 1600s in the Americas, but at the end of my tether, going back much
[10:51] further in Midiville, England, would be my guess.
[10:57] Sorry to hear about your pastor.
[11:00] Hopefully he's not at the end of his rope anymore and has found more things to eat