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[00:01] I mean, they might start thinking about heart disease. Well, I mean that's the thing, it's a slower death.
[00:06] Right, right. Which, I think, my score is Lee. I think that's McDonald's new slogan.
[00:13] It's a slow death.
[00:19] All right, Coalson, that was a bummer of a stat and I hate to do that, but
[00:29] Here we are. Do you have something that's gonna cheer you up?
[00:33] Yeah, hook me up. That's something that's not like, you know, something that's not
[00:41] Depressing. They all end up being
[00:44] Depressing, right? It's it's it's well not at first
[00:48] Well, so here's what I'll do. I'll start with something that's kind of sad and maybe it won't end up being
[00:53] Negative, right? I'm gonna perfect. Yeah, we'll figure it out. I
[00:57] Think this is good. This is flawless theory
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[01:28] Sick as a dog where I'm it's sick as a dog. Why are dogs sick?
[01:35] When I feel sick as a dog, what does that mean? I
[01:39] Mean, I think what I always think it just means you feel really sick. I mean, I mean not
[01:47] No, it's specific. But you just just say hey, I feel
[01:51] Very terrible. I feel terrible. I don't know Jason deep. Yeah, I know dogs dogs are you know, they get the worst of it
[01:58] you know, if you're
[02:01] You know not pulling your weight you're dogging it, you know, I'm sure
[02:06] like I feel like it's just a derogatory term for
[02:10] You know a lower form of humanity, right as a dog
[02:16] I keep hearing like manner dogs. I hear that a lot. Mm-hmm, you know
[02:22] Yeah, I don't know I
[02:25] Don't know no idea why sure I do know that
[02:29] so
[02:32] You know how this the side effect of lots of drugs is like vomiting or nausea or whatever
[02:37] Mm-hmm
[02:39] well in theory is that because they are
[02:43] tested on dogs at some point and
[02:46] dogs
[02:47] have a very
[02:49] robust
[02:50] Vomiting response or whatever so that their strategy is to just eat everything and then if something's not good
[02:57] They just throw it up
[02:59] So they throw a like God sort of man wants to everything basically so
[03:04] So maybe that's mmm part of where it comes from like they always oh, yeah
[03:07] Sure, dogs do get sick quite often, but they'll eat grass
[03:13] Yeah, yeah, okay
[03:15] I like that they'll eat any some dogs will just eat anything that will go into their mouth
[03:21] 98% of dogs
[03:24] Like I said, that's where most of my socks go. I think right
[03:28] Now and also this does it's does suggest that getting sick
[03:34] Sort of a way that we think about throwing up, right?
[03:38] Instead of just like I have a fever like a dog like maybe I'm actually it maybe it is about vomiting
[03:44] Sick as a dog. Hmm. Do we think this goes back to like?
[03:50] Now this seems like it's sailing thing or something like it's always in it always sailing. I was gonna say it was worth
[03:57] One of the common ones you can imagine that yeah, I don't know if they took dogs on
[04:02] Sailing vessels or whatever back in the day
[04:05] But maybe they did and maybe dogs were particularly always sick. They don't have good sea legs. So they were always sick. I
[04:14] See that's a fair. It's a really good guess
[04:19] So I don't feel like dogs are gonna like
[04:22] It's never feel at home on the sea. Yeah, but and it's also not a common
[04:28] Image of a dog on a boat. Yeah, I don't have any of that in my head. So I don't I don't think that's likely
[04:36] At one point
[04:38] The mo major way of transportation, but you know to go places was you know by boat
[04:44] And so if you had to move your dog from Europe to America in or whatever
[04:50] You got to bring your dog. Yeah sure it happened. So when do you think this turn or this phrase eology?
[04:59] Came about well if we're going with
[05:02] Traveling by boat. I'm gonna go to fifteen. I'm not necessarily going with that. I'm saying well
[05:08] What is your so if we're going with? I'm gonna go fifteen fifteen hundreds
[05:13] But okay, I think that it's I think it's Mark Twain
[05:18] Oh
[05:20] Okay, so
[05:22] Wait, oh, I think he came up with that house sick as a dog. So you don't think it's 1500s
[05:29] I'm just saying if it ends up being the boat
[05:31] I'm guessing 1500s and if it ends up being Mark Twain, I'm guessing when he was alive
[05:36] What do you think Joey does this do you think this phrase goes back something a long time or is this a newer? I
[05:43] mean, I feel like it's
[05:45] What about Shakespeare? Hmm. Yeah
[05:49] It's often Shakespeare
[05:51] Does this go back to the the dog bite thing? What were the hair of the dog? Yeah, like the rabid dog. Yeah
[06:00] Yeah
[06:02] And what was the hair of the dog? That was like super old. That was like Rome, wasn't it?
[06:07] Mmm, I believe so. Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, I think they were these I know
[06:11] I'm pretty sure that was went all the way back to Rome though. I'm pretty sure that
[06:16] Sick as a dog thing and they would put the hair of a dog in the bite wound
[06:23] Right, right
[06:26] So, okay, let's go I'm gonna I'm gonna change my mind that I'm gonna say it's a Roman we're going back to the Romans
[06:35] Yeah, I'm guessing
[06:37] It seems me BC
[06:41] Yeah, I mean it definitely seems like something that would come from a time where dogs were less
[06:46] Integral to the family unit or whatever, you know what I mean? Like sharks are just running around
[06:54] Rampant in the streets of like spoiled food and yacking up everywhere. Yeah
[07:05] Okay, so you've got
[07:07] London in the
[07:10] 1600s
[07:12] Yeah, okay, potentially Shakespeare is the first one
[07:16] And then Joey, what's your guess before we look this up? I mean that's what I'm saying
[07:20] I'm kind of I think I'm kind of in the same you kind of Shakespeare. Okay, I feel good about that
[07:25] We I think we've got some three solid guesses here. We'll see what happens
[07:30] We got a leg to stand on
[07:34] I'm seeing from the idioms.com that dog was considered an undesirable animal in the 17th century
[07:42] So much so that there are a lot of fridges phrases which refer to them negatively tired as a dog dog in the major
[07:49] manger down to the dogs dogs breakfast and dirty dogs of
[07:54] the murder of half of these
[07:56] Sick as a dog refers to being so sick that one may feel like vomiting first literary use of the expression in 1705
[08:05] The face still reflexes in a in a negative sense
[08:12] Synonyms invariant sick as a parrot
[08:16] You know, that's gonna come from that's gonna come from the seafaring things, right? I don't know. Mm-hmm
[08:21] There's an Aerosmith song called sick as a dog
[08:24] It may have come from there. Oh
[08:28] Apparently sick as a horse is was one and one is sick without the sensation of vomiting
[08:33] That's a fairly fine line
[08:36] The modern sick as a parrot recorded from the 1970s
[08:40] At one time much overused by British sportsman as the opposite of over the moon
[08:46] Refers to a state of deep mental depression rather than physical illness
[08:51] This perhaps comes from instances of parrots contracting
[08:56] Setet
[08:57] Cosis, I don't know what that is and passing it to their human owners
[09:02] I'm also seeing
[09:04] some
[09:06] some
[09:08] Relation to throw it up. Yeah, so
[09:10] The idea of being sick, which is connected to vomiting is apparently the reference here and that dogs
[09:17] as you said
[09:18] You know one of their ways of dealing with stuff is just a vomit stuff up
[09:22] So that does seem like that we were right on that and also looks like
[09:27] 1700s London, which I think is kind of what you were saying Jason the at the time dogs were not seen as human companions
[09:34] often lived off the street and
[09:38] A spoiled food and died naturally outdoors
[09:44] Hmm
[09:45] So I think I think Jason when I'm sure where you
[09:48] I'm not sure you where you thought that one wasn't gonna be depressing, but
[09:53] But we nailed it nailed it our list pretty good at this thing
[09:59] Yeah, I'm seeing actually maybe here it goes back to 1592 even. Oh, really?
[10:05] Herve's works whatever that is. Oh
[10:08] Harvey's works. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I
[10:14] Well, that one's always been on the tip of my tongue. I never guess it but I mean it's all there
[10:20] That's another we talked the you've talked some of these phrases your dog tired
[10:30] Right dirty dog
[10:33] Yeah, I've seen a lot of the dogs were you know
[10:37] dangerous disease, you know vectors basically
[10:41] for a long long time
[10:43] You slide dog. Mm-hmm. It's a good one. That's good. That's a good though
[10:52] Generally, there you go. I love the Internet
[11:00] So the one one person asked what is the origin of the phrase sick as a chip?
[11:06] And the response was never having heard it before I can only assume the origin is you
[11:14] By I'm now seeing the same stuff as you the 1592 it looks like
[11:21] It's like it was the first time in print that we can find and they spelled sick. Si cke
[11:29] Yeah, cuz they're British said it they just throw extra vowels in
[11:34] Necessarily
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