Cooked Bread

[00:06] Oh, we doing under Google rules that was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:19] You said we signed up for it in the end, it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you
[00:27] All right. So here's my question
[00:31] When you toast somebody I had a wedding or you know, whatever an event
[00:37] Mm-hmm
[00:39] What does that mean why why is it the same thing is cooked bread
[00:54] Just is it is it this is the root of the word the same
[01:00] Well, I don't know anything about toast we're toasting I can imagine whatever the word is in like
[01:07] Swahili or German or whatever. It's probably not the same word for you know, as you so eloquently put it cooked bread
[01:15] It's like proston
[01:17] German me
[01:18] Prose well, that's the that's like it's the act of doing the raising of the glass
[01:26] Prose is like I can't remember the translation is it cheers cheers. Yeah, I think it's closer to cheese. Okay. Yeah, but so the toast I guess
[01:34] Does this always
[01:37] Involve
[01:39] Is it just the raising of the glass in the drinking or is it also like the the words that go along with that or?
[01:45] Gonna be up both. Oh, so yeah. Well, so are you saying is cheers?
[01:51] Equivalent to toast. Well, I'm just kind of I just kind of want to make sure that we're all in the same
[01:56] I want to I want to I want to toast to
[01:59] this evening I could do that without typically involves like a
[02:04] some sort of a
[02:08] Statement
[02:10] Yeah, you're right. I was like, yeah, cuz otherwise I'd like to cheers to this evening
[02:15] Yeah, cuz if you just want to drink you just cheers. Yeah, and then if you I'd like to I'd like to but if you
[02:20] Want to mark the occasion and like say
[02:23] Some things then you have then you have a toast. Yeah, you like make a toast
[02:29] And that's how I that's how I
[02:32] It's I make it toast. I can't make I can't get the joke there
[02:40] Something about breakfast I've got I got to get up early and make my to make a toast straight
[02:44] I got to put my bread in the in the toaster oven and make a toast to the wake and bake your bread
[02:52] Yeah
[02:54] Your hand does you gotta cook my bread
[02:57] So why are they so why are they the same and maybe they're different I mean by you know, but maybe they're connected
[03:06] But why do we call a toast to toast?
[03:13] Maybe all the maybe when breaking of a bread situation. Ooh
[03:19] It also kind of rhymes with roast which is a
[03:23] Similar thing where you can make a public declaration
[03:30] And roasting makes more sense, right? You're turning up the heat. Yeah, but roast is also a type of cooking
[03:36] We what I guess toasting you're also turning up the heat on bread
[03:50] So a toaster oven toast spread
[03:56] Sure, yeah, it can it can do any other thing
[04:03] When did people start toaster doing toast like this has to go back a long no
[04:14] Well, this is the Romans right or the Greeks. I'm guessing before that it goes back to alcohol
[04:21] Yeah, this is it goes back to the Sumerians probably. Okay. Now that doesn't mean that anybody if not before right like
[04:29] Hmm like ceremonial
[04:31] drinks without drinking
[04:33] Well, yeah, but but you would like so when you would probably indigenous peoples and the Americas would have you know had
[04:44] ceremonial drinks and had a special
[04:47] Incantation before that. Is that a toast like is that I mean, it was like they call it. I don't know
[04:55] Probably a thing that I can't pronounce
[04:59] But I mean, you know if you if you have a speech before a special event
[05:04] That's not necessarily a toast, right?
[05:07] You're saying the Apple has to be involved
[05:09] I'm not saying it has to be involved, but I'm just saying the act of drinking together at that at the same time
[05:15] It's something that we don't do in
[05:17] an honored society and I'm not aware of in other societies without alcohol
[05:24] Like and in fact that our society is bad luck if you do it without out. Right?
[05:31] like people don't just like
[05:33] Get together and cheers on the water
[05:36] right, right
[05:38] But like if I wanted but let's say I'm in some area and I wanted and then my my
[05:43] children were getting married and I didn't have alcohol on me and I made a speech would that be a toast
[05:52] Or that I think that there needs to be some drink like probably some non-water drink
[05:57] I can see it like being like a ceremonial tea or something like that
[06:02] But I feel like it can't be
[06:07] Special about the input, right? Right, right
[06:09] And you know, I remember being given
[06:13] Sparkling grape juice as a kid when people were doing toast because the kids need to be involved in stuff, you know, it had to be special
[06:22] Okay. All right. So a special liquid I would say usually alcohol
[06:27] I
[06:29] Never water
[06:32] Sometimes others water is the worst
[06:36] Screw water
[06:40] All right, so so it's a non-water toast. Yeah
[06:45] And then and then and it's in saying something important at an important event and
[06:51] How is that the same as cooked bread?
[06:55] Yeah, yeah
[06:58] Wonderful to enjoy
[07:00] Sometimes like which of these chicken or egg like which can free right? Well, I assume that the speech
[07:06] fine with alcohol came first as
[07:10] Called a toast. No
[07:12] Yeah, for sure the idea behind that
[07:14] I mean we've made we've made bread for the gazillion a years
[07:19] But we we definitely had alcohol and and and like to talk before we had like cooked bread, right?
[07:25] No, we had bread first before bread bread is like the mainstay of agrarian society
[07:31] Well sure, but didn't we have alcohol as early?
[07:34] As early as bread. I mean, I think bread is like one of the first things that we're making that's not like
[07:41] chewed off a bone I
[07:44] Mean
[07:45] They're they're in close proximity. I would say yeah, I would think right maybe that's the whole thing
[07:51] Maybe alcohol and bread are closely related in time
[07:56] Mmm
[08:01] Yeah, cuz you think about it right like I mean out of millennia they're probably very close
[08:07] Yeah, yeah, I mean we certainly like, you know Egyptians were making something approximating beer
[08:15] It goes back a long way right but I like I suspect
[08:22] That the word toast as
[08:25] As we understand like I don't know do we think that that's a word that came over from German or something for I from high
[08:32] I just don't feel like they're related to each other in any fashion. So, okay, so let's say
[08:39] Let's say the word toast comes over from German
[08:44] like prost or something like that and it gets
[08:49] misinterpreted or trans more transmers modified and that and that
[08:54] The word the idea of toast as cooked bread comes from
[09:00] I've never heard that phrase more in my life
[09:05] Comes from something else comes from yeah from the
[09:10] The Greeks feel like the Greeks love toast
[09:18] Those
[09:22] Cinnamon toast like that
[09:26] I
[09:28] Mean toast must have come about
[09:31] quickly, right like
[09:33] Cuz stale bread the only way to liven up stale bread is throw it on the fire
[09:38] Throw it on the fire toast it up a little bit some under Google
[09:42] And they're like they had to like throw away half the bread of every loaf because they burnt the shit out of it. Yeah
[09:49] Yeah, so they just like cut off
[09:51] I
[09:54] Because they were just real bad at making real bad at making good. So they burn it all the time. They burnt was toast
[10:03] And you got to dip it in wine to make it edible, okay
[10:07] Oh might as well say some words about Jesus
[10:15] Could be about how great you are
[10:17] Yeah, I'm sure somebody thought that up eventually but you know
[10:23] Then we got anything on this. Yeah, I'm finding some things and I guess origins of the things
[10:33] Are different I guess I guess I guess to differentiate that from
[10:39] the words and I have not found it on the words, but like the
[10:43] so the the
[10:45] Cook bread as you say
[10:48] That comes from the light why sure he never said that
[10:52] the Latin word
[10:55] Torrere
[10:56] Toast them. I'm seeing toast them. Oh, this one says to burn or scorch
[11:02] Yeah, this one says Latin to rare
[11:05] There's something we didn't come up with and it's also wrong, but it's interesting to
[11:11] You may have heard the tradition of toasting originated out of a fear of poisoning
[11:17] the idea being that
[11:19] Clinking two glasses together would cause the liquid from both to spill into one another
[11:24] Which seems weird. I think it's more likely that you would both have to drink at the same time. That's what I was right
[11:32] Yeah, but anyway, it seems like it's not true anyway
[11:37] So forget that
[11:39] According to Wikipedia toast honor the expression dates back to beginning the 18th century when it was used among the university students
[11:46] And eventually made its way into everyday language
[11:49] I'm seeing that toasting in the sense of offering libations goes back to the ancient Greeks at least
[11:59] Who would offer libations to the gods as a ritual practice
[12:03] There's evidence in the Odyssey the bromins place such an importance on drinking to health
[12:12] Then at one point in time the Senate passed a decree that stated that all must drink to Emperor Augustus at every meal
[12:20] Mmm sure the Senate was really on board with that
[12:25] So the farmers on my neck I'm looking in
[12:29] So that the term toast as in drinking to one's health
[12:33] Comes from the literal practice of dropping a piece of toast in your drink
[12:37] Huh nailed it in the 16th century. It was common practice to add a piece of scorched or spiced toast to wine
[12:46] The bread will help the bread would help soak up some of the acidity and prove the flavor in poor wine
[12:52] As a bonus it would also help to soften up stale bread
[12:56] Shakespeare Shakespeare mentions their term toast in
[13:01] Mary Wives of Windsor when Falstaff calls for a quart of wine and says put a toast in it
[13:07] Damn it, Shakespeare. Oh my God Shakespeare
[13:10] Shakespeare
[13:12] It makes a lot of sense cuz bad bread is way better with wine. So they are
[13:18] intertwined
[13:20] Yeah, I'm getting well, but he wasn't using it in that context. He was just saying
[13:26] Put toast in it. Yeah, he wasn't saying anything about
[13:30] Actually sure sure sure
[13:34] But we're connecting the the the drink with not a hard hop from there to a
[13:40] Long jump from that I mean well
[13:43] But it's unclear to me that it actually was used in essence until the 18th century and it's not clear to me
[13:48] Why they started why university students started doing this
[13:52] Prosit or pros by the way roughly meaning be well
[13:57] Which is a toast in Latin and modern Italian from which the German short Prost is derived
[14:06] So I didn't I didn't know the Japanese were
[14:12] kind of high
[14:16] In Spanish Italian to is like salute salute
[14:20] Actually, the the Italians also use Chantani. Okay, a hundred years. Okay
[14:29] And slanting
[14:31] Yeah
[14:35] Yeah, I'm poor didn't know how to cheer in every language. Yeah, so we nailed it I think we nailed it
[14:42] Don't do we know the answer?
[14:45] Hey, we know that people put bread
[14:48] in booze and then over that and it tended to be stale or burn next century's then they just dropped the bread part and
[14:57] Stuck with the
[14:58] Drinking part it was a Shakespeare and toasty toasting became so popular in the 17th and 18th centuries that toast masters came into being
[15:06] acting as kind of party referee
[15:08] They were there to ensure that the toasting didn't become too excessive and that everyone got their fair share of toasting opportunities
[15:16] This may sound silly, but it was a desperately needed role
[15:20] As left to their own devices guests would occasionally go on toasting every individual in the room
[15:26] This being a great excuse to drink excessive amounts of alcohol
[15:31] So the toast master re leads
[15:34] right into the rose master
[15:36] Yes, exactly. Yes
[15:41] Wow, so party referral connected is a job that somebody needs to do
[15:47] If only our college had had one of those call something right things would have turned out very different for us
[15:54] I
[15:58] I'm reading an argument that the toasting was one of the reasons of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire
[16:07] Well, you know about the bread or the or the drink the the drinking, but I didn't know people were eating too much bread
[16:18] Too many carbs
[16:21] Showed up to save their ass the at least three rounds of toast accompanied every course at dinner
[16:30] Got super drunk, although we just were just drunk all the time
[16:35] It's a theory it's fun I
[16:39] like the fact that like that the people need
[16:42] Party referees because they're like if they don't they will toast to every person in the room
[16:47] And they also just like need these excuses to keep drinking like if I don't know
[16:51] I feel like if you want to keep drinking you just keep trying to keep doing that right like you don't I mean I know like
[16:56] Got drinking games and things like that. They they make it easier. But like if you want to drink you can drink
[17:02] Well, so but at these parties only one person that alcohol that was the host
[17:08] Right. So you had to keep hosting. I had to keep toasting in order to make the host keep pouring. I see
[17:14] I see is my guess I guess and I'll just hit the 7-11 and it's also yeah
[17:20] It's also more socially acceptable. Like if it's something like that where you know, we just you know, it's yeah, you know
[17:27] Yeah, it's not cool to get fall down drunk for no reason, right? You got to tell us to 18 dude
[17:33] You need it. I'm sorry. There was 18
[17:37] Yeah, so apparently in the 17th century the position of toast master emerged in England
[17:44] They presided over the events
[17:48] Essentially getting hammered while buffering
[17:53] Making sure people didn't get to hammer
[17:56] Just like appropriately hammered. Maybe the correct amount of hammered
[18:01] The golden age we can put in a lot of better do a drink. Yes
[18:08] The golden golden age of toasting in America was a 40-year period from
[18:14] 1880 to
[18:15] 1920
[18:17] Well, that's interesting because toastmasters international
[18:20] Didn't start till 1924
[18:23] At the YMCA in Santa Ana, California. Okay after the Golden Age after the Golden Age
[18:29] There's the Golden Age of toasting overlap with the Golden Age of Magic
[18:36] Coincidence
[18:39] Illusions Michael
[18:42] Okay, I think we nailed it we always do