Multi-Continental Colonization

[00:00] You've been hanging out with me all weekend. Yes, and I kept noticing that you would you would start to ask a question you say no
[00:08] No, I'm gonna say that
[00:11] Is there something that now that we're here for posterity's sake for sure that then I can answer for you
[00:18] Perhaps in the form of an undegoogleable
[00:31] We do under Google's that was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:38] Is that we said we signed up for it in the end? It's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you
[00:48] Thing about our time together is I just assume you'll you'll know the answer to everything and so it's like why even ask it
[00:56] Why
[00:58] I'm just gonna look like an idiot
[01:00] Like an idiot on
[01:05] By this well record it that's my strategy. That's right
[01:11] One of the things that I've been thinking about recently and actually this this occurred to me while we're at the zoo
[01:20] What's the difference between a jungle and a forest
[01:26] Yeah, cuz I feel like they're both a bunch of trees
[01:32] Yeah
[01:33] It's actually accurate
[01:36] I think that's a good point. I
[01:40] My instinct is that it's the kind of trees. Okay in those different places
[01:47] That I
[01:50] Know my guess is that forests are
[01:56] No, I guess you could have a evergreen forest I was gonna say deciduous and jungles are not deciduous
[02:02] Who helped me with that word? So deciduous trees are ones that lose their leaves as opposed to everything's right pie
[02:09] It's supposed to evergreens, which never is it? Yeah, right. Yeah
[02:14] Okay, and I like jungles, I think it's warm enough all year round. Yeah, I don't think trees lose their leaves
[02:20] So they might be in the non deciduous tree family. Well, well in that vein of
[02:26] Warmth, I think what you're what you're probably getting to is is actually it may come down a rainfall
[02:35] Okay, so you think that there's a certain amount of rain that that constitutes a jungle
[02:43] But like we call it the rain forests not the rain jungle
[02:48] That's a good point. I mean do we call any I mean, there's no such I mean, can you name a jungle?
[02:53] the jungle blow
[02:58] Jumanji
[03:01] No, you're right, you're right, I think it does seem that like you don't name
[03:07] those regions
[03:10] Jungle but jungle is more like a description of
[03:14] The stuff you have to hack through. Yeah, that's interesting is jungle actually just a pejorative for rainforest. I
[03:22] don't know hmm
[03:24] jungle does seem like it's a
[03:26] an
[03:27] indigenous
[03:28] Were word right to like say like Central America or whatever. Are there but there's jungle in
[03:37] Southern Asia and so yeah, the jungles of Vietnam during the war, right? We didn't call those forests
[03:45] No, but it but again, I'm wondering if if there's a pejorative element here
[03:50] I see so it's because it's it's
[03:53] It's an other ization just when you're mad at it
[03:59] When there's people she was really hard to get through like it takes me a machete to get to this forest
[04:05] It's a jungle. It's a job
[04:08] Well, that does make that does beg the question with the root of the the word jungle is whether it's
[04:15] connected to
[04:18] Something that's well, it's definitely a pejorative in other senses of the word
[04:22] Right, like we talked about the urban jungle, which is basically
[04:25] To make it seem like a very dangerous place. Yeah, yeah, like a bad environment or you know
[04:32] It's a jungle out there baby, right? She's gonna survive
[04:37] Whereas a forest is what East Coast evergreen. It's very
[04:43] Walk in the forest. Yeah, and it's and it's usually usually definitely has seasons
[04:48] There's like there's like an entire
[04:50] genre of like poetry and literature like centered on the foot like
[04:54] Can you ever ride a haiku if you're not in a forest saving allow is that against the law true?
[04:59] I don't know. I mean, I think maybe my all my haikus are illegitimate. Well, they are anyway
[05:08] Till I start writing them in a forest you didn't marry the person that the muse that
[05:15] What gave you those haikus why by the cow when you get the milk free
[05:24] age-old wisdom
[05:29] Okay, so I like this so we're gonna go with
[05:33] Forests were invented by or descriptor descriptor by any by God in
[05:40] Right invented by God, but Europeans in
[05:44] cold climates named an area with lots of trees forests and then
[05:50] they other ized warm
[05:53] Forests as jungles
[05:56] in when they went to
[06:00] Conquer there those continents in Africa and South Asia and in South America
[06:06] I don't know. I feel like jungle is probably
[06:10] Like yes and no, right? So I think that yes that happened
[06:13] But I think that jungle was a term used by people that lived in those areas that were
[06:18] Or like some something close to that that we like adopted and still so the word jump like
[06:24] What do you think the derivation of jungle is like?
[06:28] The way the word is formed like that could be German
[06:33] Yungal
[06:35] Was a Yungal like an American. I mean, yeah
[06:37] I mean that those that's a set of letters that could have been American ized from
[06:43] Do you think it's could it have the same route as jumble?
[06:47] You know, is it this this kind of confused jumbled place? I
[06:52] Don't know. It seems a stretch, but perhaps. Yeah, no, I mean
[06:57] My I mean my point with the German thing though, is it they weren't actually
[07:02] colonizers
[07:03] Right, right. Mm-hmm the English and the French and the Spanish in Portuguese. Yeah
[07:09] So I I mean it may predate
[07:15] you know
[07:17] Multicontinental colonialism
[07:20] Or it may not no idea. Let's go with let's go with rainfall then
[07:26] Okay, so jungles of rainforest. Yeah jungles of rainforest. Okay. That's what I'm going with. I like that
[07:32] That was your first guess and I think you're probably right
[07:35] But then I came up with the it's not a rain jungle because I'm a freakin dick
[07:39] I was just I stole Jason's Jason was already halfway there. I just stole this thing. So
[07:44] What is a jungle?
[07:47] So according to Britannica
[07:52] Forest is usually described as a dense growth of trees covering a large land area
[07:59] With a dry climate
[08:02] There are tropical forests and rain forests the word jungle usually described a tangled or overgrown that
[08:10] Massive vegetation or to a style of dance music incorporate elements araga hip-hop and hardcore
[08:17] No
[08:18] So there's that that's it boy. That was that was not real to find that I think that person was making that stuff up. Yeah
[08:30] All right, we've got late 18th century via Hindi from Sanskrit
[08:35] Jung
[08:37] Jing Gaya
[08:40] Okay, so the word jungle comes from Hindi
[08:47] 1776 dense growth of trees and other tangled vegetation
[08:53] So it is Hindi certainly not German. I was not close on that particular guess
[09:01] Jenga lives arid sparse sparsely grown with trees interesting because that's not how we use it today, right?
[09:10] It's yeah colloquial term meant for
[09:18] Described types of rain forests with very dense undergrowth
[09:22] The stuff you have to machete through basically, you know figurative sense
[09:27] wild tangled mass of anything is from 1850
[09:31] meaning placed lawless and violent is first recorded in
[09:36] 1906 from Upton Sinclair's novel meaning Hobo camp
[09:41] Is from 1908 asphalt jungle?
[09:45] Mr. Coalson is from 1949 William R. Burnett's novel title
[09:50] In 1950 John Huston made that movie
[09:55] Blackboard jungle is from Evan Hunter's novel title. I
[09:59] Mean you definitely can see how authors would would take this and run with it for sure
[10:04] I mean it certainly has it or at least apparently has no
[10:09] you know
[10:11] Geographical meaning it's or science. It's not a science. It's definitely not that
[10:16] Okay, so a forest is a scientific term about closely
[10:23] Related trees over a large area and jungle is just
[10:29] It's just a tangle jungle is just a painting it's a bowl
[10:32] Yeah, exactly. That's where you've got all the low the overgrowth on the bottom. You can't really walk through it
[10:38] You got a pack through it
[10:40] But that's not even scientific so because those four because the rainforest is still a forest
[10:46] Yep, okay, so it's slang term for it's a casual word for bad scientists call it tropical forests
[10:53] Okay, okay jungle is a tropical forest
[10:57] But it's not a scientific term
[10:59] No, there you go
[11:02] See if I'd asked you that you know while we were at the zoo
[11:06] You probably would have answered it and I wouldn't have been embarrassed
[11:11] Sorry to embarrass you on live radio, that's right
[11:16] Could you ask the elephant question
[11:20] Ask Harper the elephant question. What is the question? Why aren't they it wasn't everything
[11:29] How much food does an elephant eat it Oh trivia, okay
[11:34] All right, there's two kinds of elephants right there's an African elephant Asian. Yeah, we're gonna focus on the Asian elephant
[11:39] Cuz that's the kind of cuz that's what they had at the zoo. How many pounds of food?
[11:45] Do you think an Asian elephant eats in a day?
[11:49] So I don't go to zoos very often is
[11:54] Agent elephant are
[11:58] Slightly smaller. Yeah. Yep
[12:05] 150 okay
[12:09] According to the sign that was in the bathroom
[12:14] Three at the zoo three hundred five hundred pounds of food a day
[12:19] an Asian elephant eats for an animal that weighs
[12:24] There they're like 8,000 pounds like seven times. Yeah. No, well, yeah
[12:29] Four times seven short time. Yes. So yeah, well, I thought they were much smaller
[12:38] Second question how how much P. Do you think an Asian elephant produces on a day?
[12:47] 80
[12:49] 80 what's on scallions pounds?
[12:53] That's it. How many gallons? Sorry, how many gallons? How much does a gallon of water away? I
[13:01] Think 32 or no, sorry eight. No, that's a cubic pound. So eight pounds. Yeah, so
[13:09] 12 gallons 12 gallons and kudos to the graduate student then had to collect
[13:17] Hopefully they can do that with lasers now
[13:19] You're you're hoping against hope that they can do that with lasers
[13:24] The trunk of an Asian elephant contains as many as six
[13:29] 60,000 muscles
[13:31] Yeah, those are like weird muscles and there aren't they all like sphincters like it's just like a series of like
[13:38] Yeah, longitudinal and radiating sets of
[13:41] Muscles, yeah
[13:44] So are you telling me Jason that the reason is everything is an elephant's is that they have to spend their entire day eating and peeing?
[13:50] That's right. Okay, that should have been our answer. But when we did that pot, I guess barely any time left bro. Create
[13:57] That's right or think up shit
[14:01] You know, that's right. I
[14:04] The best elephant haiku is is not that great
[14:08] It's also have you heard a elephant podcast not a lot of good content
[14:16] Hey, there's a pack a derm joke, but I couldn't nice
[14:21] Alright, that's that's good. Let's let's pack a derm our way out of here. No, that didn't work. Let's
[14:27] Pack a derm up our equipment. We can just pack it up
[14:31] Yep, that'll do. Thank you for listening
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