Fancy Ovens

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[01:33] So Christina
[01:35] Snowbird, whatever. I don't know nailed it her 12 year old kid apparently 12 year old kid
[01:44] was listening to
[01:46] Our podcast while she was driving him to school. His name is Aaron
[01:51] So shout out to Aaron
[01:54] And so he wanted to ask and I feel like this is useful. I think this is a really good question
[01:59] I didn't know how to answer it to him
[02:02] What what is a m and p.m. Sand for?
[02:07] And when did it come about?
[02:09] Good question. I think it's a really good question. You've got a 12 year old asking a really good question
[02:16] And we need an answer for him. This is the you know, the clock. Yeah for noon
[02:22] Yeah, what why I in my head the moment I heard that I was like, yeah, why do we divide the 24 hours?
[02:28] into half
[02:30] Like that's a like his military time. Well, no military time goes 24 hours, right?
[02:37] So like right. Why do we do anything else? Well because the easiest marker of time
[02:43] Or the original marker of time considers before we standardized time was was daylight was high noon, right?
[02:50] When the Sun is at its highest in the sky, that's when you're most confident of what time of day it is. Okay
[02:56] right
[02:59] So that's why I think we
[03:01] divide the day basically before and after high noon and my guess is
[03:06] that
[03:08] The a is something like anta. Yeah, and the p is post and the M is
[03:15] Moridian, I think it's meridian meridian meridian anta meridian and post meridian
[03:22] It's post Malone
[03:28] That's a joke for all the youngsters
[03:34] Yeah, because this is going to a 12 year old so he's gonna be totally on that one
[03:38] There we go. Mm-hmm
[03:41] Is that are you Harper you seemed like you jibed with that does that that makes sense to you? Yeah, it does indeed
[03:48] and I I suspect that
[03:50] Yeah, the meridian would be the the center point
[03:53] So presumably in this case we're talking about the center point in the sky at which point the Sun crosses
[03:59] from
[04:00] One side to the other right?
[04:04] Do you think so?
[04:07] Yeah, and when do we think this came about?
[04:10] Well, no, that's that's the interesting question, right? So like I mean if you think about it like
[04:16] High-noon
[04:17] we start to understand as
[04:20] you know
[04:22] Half of the day people have been tracking the Sun
[04:26] That's what I'm saying. So where do where do we go? That's what I'm saying. How far back do we go is what I'm saying
[04:32] Well post Latin because there's some Latin words in there
[04:40] Yeah, do you think it was 24-hour clock before that?
[04:45] No, they didn't have
[04:47] Clocks before that when it was a sundial and I think this is I I really like
[04:54] Roman not Greek. I'm gonna go with Roman Romans. Okay. I think they came up with this in like 500. I
[05:03] Mean, there's a couple different. Yeah, one of this is when did we split it and then went when did that well
[05:09] So let's see. Let's think more abstractly here. So in a lot of languages like the European languages there are different salutations
[05:18] based on
[05:19] Relatively like morning versus afternoon versus the night. Yeah and different clothing
[05:24] I mean, you don't want to show up to you know, the dinner party with your morning gloves on you look like an idiot
[05:28] Sure. So they sure ask cop versus your cravat. Yeah, exactly. Great. And so the day is
[05:35] Divided so it makes sense to me that they would have
[05:40] different
[05:41] designations for
[05:43] That in the time. I mean, I guess that doesn't answer why you would split the 24-hour clock into two 12-hour things
[05:51] Unless it's simply that that like yeah, I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. I
[05:59] Mean on some level it really only makes sense once you've established. I mean, you know
[06:04] The question is why did we establish a 12-hour clock, right? Right
[06:10] Presumably when timekeeping became more common
[06:14] right
[06:15] Which is trains and so the reason it's set things like relative to the high noon is because that's the one thing that's gonna be
[06:23] constant across
[06:25] Yeah seasons, right
[06:27] So so you might think that the more natural thing would be to have hours during the night and hours during the daylight
[06:35] But since those change with the seasons the length of those times like you can't do it that way
[06:41] So you would have to do it
[06:43] divisible by a
[06:45] different thing a different marker, right and
[06:49] The the daytime one makes sense high noon is gonna always make sense how you figure out what midnight is I have no
[06:55] I mean just relative to the other one
[06:59] Just hours later. Yeah
[07:02] So, I mean maybe that's simply the answer so you're basically just running everything off high noon. Yeah
[07:09] Boy, but that's that's rough though
[07:12] Is it like I mean if you actually have reliance upon the Sun for timekeeping matters like you would you're probably pretty good at it
[07:21] Yeah, exactly
[07:23] What we got am stands for the Latin ente meridian. Oh
[07:30] That we nailed that mid-day and p.m. Stands for post meridian we nailed that as well
[07:37] So according to
[07:40] aspirant form.com
[07:42] The Egyptians divided the day into 24 equal parts by using the base of 12
[07:49] Of course, they did but why?
[08:00] Egyptian sundial for daytime water clock for nighttime. Oh, I love the water lock
[08:05] and they both
[08:10] Divided their respective times into 12 hours each Romans also use a 12-hour clock
[08:15] I mean, it may be that clock makers just found the 12-hour system simpler and cheaper
[08:25] Other places did do the 24-hour clock
[08:29] 12-hour clock was used in the British Empire
[08:32] Right. That's what I'm seeing
[08:34] The first mechanical clocks are on the 14th century
[08:38] I'm not saying anything on time frame of using actual am and p.m.
[08:45] It keeps I was keep getting British Empire over and over again
[08:51] Alright so the term according to grammar phobia first recording English in 1563
[09:00] How'd they figure that stuff out with like the stars and the Sun and all that stuff yes
[09:08] Amazing that's amazing. All right. Well, we nailed it
[09:15] Yeah, I still don't know why we use 12-hour clocks
[09:19] Yeah, but we know what it stands for and we know that it came from the Egyptians
[09:27] Mesopotamians, yep, what do we learn?
[09:33] Ask myself that a lot
[09:35] Into the mirror listen to the ear from now. Yeah. Yeah, exactly
[09:43] No, but you know, I'm we're trying to teach a 12 year old right now what's going on so
[09:49] What do we learn we learn that we should tell him
[09:56] Should probably start using a literary time. It was a good question because we don't know the answer. That's right
[10:04] All right military time
[10:07] Some you know, you can you can actually set that on your iPhone you can sit on
[10:13] Basically any digital clock. I mean not on your oven clock
[10:18] Sure, you can't some of no, they don't do the 24 hours on your oven clock some do
[10:24] Oh, oh, oh you guys have the fancy ovens, huh? Oh, look at you guys
[10:28] I had the big money guys with the oven clocks that go 24 hours mine only goes 12
[10:34] Alright, I'm just saying. Yeah, I can't cook something longer than 12 hours. The numbers don't go up to more than 12 on my oven
[10:43] so
[10:44] Go be fancy and yours will do
[10:49] We'll come hang out with you and and my turkey for 24 hours
[10:54] later
[10:55] Our oven also has a Shabbat function
[11:03] It has a Shabbat function. Yes
[11:06] Did I just say function or function? Yeah, you got a cover now
[11:12] Yeah
[11:14] What it wait, what does that do Jason? I'm you can like preset it to like
[11:19] Turn on for you because you're if you're yeah
[11:24] Orthodox are very
[11:26] Do anything on Shabbat like you can turn on the oven. All right, I I
[11:32] In in college, I did some babysitting for a Jewish family and they
[11:37] Asked me to do those things for them. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a common way to get around it. Right solid work around slave labor. I
[11:45] Mean it was like stuff like it was like flip on the light turn on the lights
[11:48] Yeah, it was stuff like that. It was it was I just I don't know where you draw the line. It's a
[11:54] Yeah, yeah
[11:58] It was always small stuff like that, you know, so it was it was never
[12:03] They were I would say
[12:05] Modern Orthodox where they followed the rules, but they were they were a little bit like they would eat it
[12:12] None
[12:14] Not kosher, but they would eat kosher things like, you know what I'm saying, like
[12:21] Anyway
[12:23] They kept separate silverware and plate wearing stuff like that. They did. Yeah. Yeah, you just putting people's news on the street right now
[12:29] Joey is that what's happening?
[12:32] I didn't say who
[12:36] I'm also pretty entertained with Coalson
[12:42] What's going on to your microphone, but I don't know
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[12:52] When you were younger you never had that
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