Decorative Fancy Cakes

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[00:35] You know, this is a another one from from my vacation
[00:39] Recently, I was
[00:41] There was a pizza joint in the Keys
[00:45] Called upper crust pizza
[00:49] With which I thought was very clever
[00:51] but then I thought
[00:54] Where does the phrase upper crust come from and why do we relate it to the wealthy?
[00:59] Right the upper crust of society if you will
[01:07] Mm-hmm
[01:09] And I'm not saying that it has to be connected to pizza
[01:13] I was thinking maybe more like pie. Yeah, maybe well, we did a pie one, right?
[01:20] What was the difference between a tie and a crumble or something? Yeah, crumbler a crumble and a cobbler a cobbler
[01:26] Yeah, and the answer was an upper crust versus bottoms versus no bottoms. I think was the
[01:34] But bottoms optional I think was the yeah
[01:39] Okay, so I'm not super familiar with this phrase is this can you can you give me a like a good definition I
[01:47] Mean not really just that I you know, you like the upper crust of society is normally how I think of it
[01:53] Right, so it's so the well-to-do
[01:56] The the socialites or the wealthy
[02:01] Is what I think of as the upper crust, okay
[02:06] Which again
[02:08] You could relate that to pie, but I'm not sure why that's better than I guess that's better than the bottom crust
[02:15] well, I mean
[02:18] Pie is definitely fancier than a cobbler. Right? I mean
[02:23] You know, you're putting more effort to make it look pretty right that's the whole
[02:28] Top crust thing. Yeah
[02:32] Is it possible that this is a
[02:34] Like the crust of the earth sort of thing. Yeah, that's where I that's what I think of
[02:41] Did we know about the
[02:44] crusts
[02:47] This phrase came about
[02:49] When do you think this phrase came this seems British to me? Yeah
[02:55] like
[02:58] Later than Middle East Shakespeare time
[03:02] Shakespeare I felt like this is the Monopoly guy like the the 20s like the the the the
[03:08] the pre
[03:10] Daged like yeah Gilded Age like yeah, like pre-depression with all this massive wealth. Okay, I
[03:18] Was thinking more Victorian
[03:20] Okay
[03:23] When do you get crust
[03:25] When is the first crust you have crust I mean
[03:33] Yeah, you got heat
[03:35] Soon as you get like anything cooking like I mean before bread potentially
[03:40] Before bread, I mean it's unleavened right if you think it would be harder to make bread than crust
[03:46] Yeah, okay. Okay
[03:49] But there wouldn't be an upper crust
[03:52] Although pie dough
[03:55] Takes a bit of
[03:57] That seems like it would have come about later than bread to me, but I mean I would say pastries in general
[04:05] Post just like yeah, that's like a luxury thing. Yeah, you have time to fold butter and
[04:13] And that's my thing, right? That's where I think this came from is, you know, okay from fancy pay
[04:18] Like it's shorthand for fancy pastries. So you got your own
[04:22] Right, yeah, what about what about France in that one? Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, they're big on the baking
[04:28] they're good at baking bread and
[04:31] Desserts. I feel like they've got a
[04:34] healthy social scene
[04:36] Where you could have you know, the socialites. Oh sure. This is good. This could be the upper crust is 14
[04:43] Yeah, exactly. This is before we beheaded everyone. This is this is let them eat cake. Yeah, this is yeah
[04:48] Who is that those Marie Marie? Yeah, that's when that yeah rip by the way, you know
[04:54] What a basket case
[05:06] Okay, so
[05:07] You could also imagine that it came later as sort of a metaphor for you know
[05:13] Classes of society or something like that like somebody Marxist sort of
[05:17] Right was like was like saying like look you got
[05:21] You know poor-ass people are at the bottom. They're the bottom crust like the meat of society the
[05:28] main thing is the
[05:30] Filling in the middle of say like a pot pie or whatever and then you got these, you know
[05:37] Very thin layer of the upper crust or whatever. Okay, so you think maybe this is a pot pie metaphor. I like it
[05:43] That's good. I like that. I
[05:45] Don't know but I could see that
[05:48] Sure, I feel like the all all of those are I
[05:51] Mean, no matter what kind of pie. It's the same idea, right?
[05:54] Like so the bottom the bottom crust is all mushy and you can't really you can't really you know
[06:00] Nobody wants that. It's there you eat it
[06:04] The upper crust is Chris correct and above things and sort of above the rest of it
[06:10] nice and crispy and
[06:13] hot and
[06:16] Magma no, yeah, so
[06:20] Decorative when's the in the crust of the earth? Where's the magma? Where's that? Is there a lower crust?
[06:27] Is there a third below it's it's where your fillings would be. I
[06:31] Mean still near ish the top
[06:33] Yeah, you're pressed and then you got your mantle and then you get your core or the main layers if I remember
[06:40] Then you got your science correctly the gooey nougat center, right?
[06:47] mostly plasma
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[07:09] That's true. All right. So we vaguely think that this is a British thing or a French thing
[07:17] To Europe anything European thing and thing with a pie making connection from like the
[07:31] 17 I like mid 1700s to the early 1900s
[07:36] Well, that's that's a broad range. I'm either going mid 70s. No, it's human. Hey, I mean, it's very it's a speck
[07:43] You're right in human history. I'm either going gilded age
[07:46] Early 1900s in America or I'm going Europe in mid 1700s
[07:51] That's is that broad enough?
[07:54] So you're either going with yours or piggybacking with ours if we happen to be
[08:00] And I'm going it's not about the crust or the mantle of the earth
[08:04] I'm gonna go with and I'm not gonna go with pizza crust. I'm going with pie crust
[08:10] decorative fancy cakes
[08:13] Pies croissants. I don't think pies had upper crust until Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah
[08:20] So this this could be a Chicago saying with the band
[08:25] No, I'm saying
[08:27] Early early 1920s Chicago pizza the old upper crust
[08:32] top crust
[08:35] Those are the why isn't it top crust?
[08:40] Okay, I'm seeing the first
[08:44] appearance
[08:46] Is from john russell's
[08:50] The book of nurture
[08:55] Circa 1460, okay cut ye upper crust for your
[09:03] Souring sovereign
[09:07] It looks like upper crust didn't in fact come to be as figuratively to refer to the aristocracy until the 19th century
[09:17] John
[09:19] Badcock in 1823 upper crust one who lords it over others is mr. Upper crust
[09:28] The term had previously been used to refer to the outer crust of the earth's surface
[09:33] And more frequently a person's head or hat who had who had head or hat
[09:39] Ooh did not have head or hat
[09:44] Well, I think it's looking increasingly like we may have run across one of these things
[09:48] It was like running around in the lexicon for a while
[09:52] before it got codified
[09:54] But yeah, it does. It does seem to
[09:57] The things i'm looking at do seem to agree with the fact that it sort of gets connected to the wealthy in the early 19th century or
[10:06] Um, yeah, that's when somebody writes it down for sure right and it probably has
[10:12] Something to do with bread
[10:14] But we don't really know what
[10:17] We're kind of guessing about that
[10:22] But that is interesting that people didn't used to be able to bake bread without burning half of it. Apparently that was I didn't know that
[10:28] I learned that today
[10:32] So you think they just would would bake it and then they just cut off the bad part
[10:36] Like it like some part of it's going to get burned and we'll just yeah
[10:39] The bottom is going to be burned because the because I mean you're doing like the coals are on the bottom, right?
[10:43] We don't have like infection ovens or anything, right?
[10:45] So the bottom just gets brown if you want to get the upper cusp
[10:47] Give me nice and golden everything else is burned on the bottom, right?
[10:51] So give that crap to the poor people
[10:53] Right the poor people and you get the upper crust the top part of the loaf with a nice crispy thing
[10:58] And probably the really nice gooey
[11:00] Um bread to the the wealthy
[11:03] Um
[11:05] So I did did we learn anything it's uh, yeah people didn't know how to bake bread for a long flipping time
[11:12] Baking bread's hard, especially on an open fire
[11:16] Yeah, but it was like a main source of sustenance you didn't think we'd have figured that out the first
[11:21] For like the dawn of time, right? Exactly
[11:25] Good god, good god
[11:29] Figured out telescopes before we forgot how to pick bread, right?
[11:38] I feel like that's strictly a western civilization problem, too. Like yeah weren't
[11:45] Indians like cooking stuff in clay ovens like perfectly for thousands of thousands of years
[11:50] You can't get this damn fire