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[00:00] All right, I think it's time we move to the undegoogles
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[00:37] It's America's favorite
[00:40] The talk show right what do we call a game show fastest-growing game show
[00:47] People love it most loved sure
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[00:52] Yeah, yeah
[00:54] There's some joke about how
[00:57] Undebeatables colors don't run, but I can't quite get there
[01:01] There's an existing joke or one that you're trying what I'm working on. It's not quite in there
[01:05] I didn't know if you met there was like an old saying
[01:10] I mean, I think it's off an old saying potentially
[01:14] Okay, yeah
[01:16] so
[01:18] Got one got the unda unda unda Google will for you
[01:23] Something that I heard a phrase that I've heard many times
[01:27] Heard it recently and I said, you know what?
[01:30] I don't know where this comes from and I want to go to my three
[01:35] Smartest friends run it by them and see if they can come up with something better than I could
[01:40] the term gumshoe
[01:43] Why is a detective a gumshoe where did that come from what's era
[01:50] Connection to
[01:53] Being a detective I don't understand any of it, but it's something we just say all the time and I want to run by you guys
[02:00] So gumshoe. I want to be clear. I don't say it all the time
[02:05] But it does so that's that it's a nickname for a detective, right? Yeah
[02:09] Yeah
[02:10] Like your inspector gadget type. I
[02:13] Usually think of it's like a private eye, but I think you could also I mean, I think just detectives in general are gumshoes, right?
[02:19] Yeah, I think more like private. I like like in a
[02:23] Is noir the right type of that's for you. Yeah. Yeah
[02:28] Yeah, like a Humphrey Bogart somebody, you know, a dame walked in my office
[02:33] Sure, sure. So multi's Falcon sort of yeah, right
[02:38] It's all the mysteries. Mm-hmm. It's all the mysteries
[02:42] I always I always think of those guys that are the guys that are hitting the pavement
[02:47] And maybe they step on some gum. I don't know
[02:51] There's they're just walking the pavement so much that they're just picking up gum on their shoes
[02:56] because they're so
[02:58] At about hitting the pavement. I don't know. That's all I had
[03:02] That's where my mind went initially as well
[03:09] But it seems too easy seems too straightforward, right? Okay
[03:16] But I don't have any other great
[03:20] Ideas
[03:21] to be honest, what if what if the gum is sticky and
[03:26] then it's sort of they they there's some sort of stickiness element where they can
[03:32] Find they're hoping something sticks, right? Yeah, probably I gotta throw a bunch of stuff against stuff at the wall
[03:39] Right, or maybe maybe you can use gum to plug up the holes in your shoes cuz you wore them out. Ooh
[03:46] Okay. Okay, that's probably the right answer. It seems like a horrible solution. Yes
[03:53] But you don't make enough money to cuz you're just you just you know
[03:57] It's a private eye. We're having a case. I think that's probably the right answer. Nice. Nice work. Yeah
[04:03] I vaguely remember our college roommate Coalson
[04:07] asking his etymology teacher
[04:09] Not the etymology of gumshoe, but another
[04:13] Slang name for a private detective a dick
[04:16] Mm-hmm and
[04:19] That's the I don't remember what the answer was
[04:25] There's a side question would you be a private dick I
[04:32] Don't know Joey you're the you're you know season ticket holder
[04:41] You have any ideas
[04:43] Boy on which one the either one I got you let's think I'm sure yeah
[04:51] Yeah, I mean I guess the the other thing is sort of in the same vein but it'd be like somebody
[04:58] You know you you could be inspecting something like gum on the bottom of a shoe
[05:04] Maybe not your own but like, you know, you could you could Sherlock your homes into some crazy stuff, you know
[05:11] You you find this little I say
[05:13] You know pebble that's it that's embedded in gum and you're like, oh, I know where that came from. It's from 55th Street
[05:21] Right or I yeah this flavor of gum comes from this store and they got it from this place or whatever
[05:29] Right and yeah, and there's some dirt in there that I know from this. Yeah
[05:34] Right, that's where the body is buried
[05:37] Yeah, that's where that always ends up
[05:40] So nowadays, right so there are you know, your standard loafer which have like leather bottoms or whatever
[05:48] but at some point we transition to
[05:51] rubber
[05:52] Which is gum like yeah sense where?
[05:56] was there at a time when when
[05:59] Shoes or the soles of shoes were made out of gum
[06:04] Like materials or whatever like pre rubber
[06:08] pre vulcanization
[06:13] That's I feel like I feel like the answer is yes to that but I
[06:21] I want to be honest with you
[06:23] I don't know a lot about the the way check shoe technology has progressed through the years
[06:28] Yeah, I feel like would they just rock and leather before that? What would they do on?
[06:32] Yeah, no, they're definitely it was it was a lot actually just leather
[06:35] A lot of leather bottom cows died for that come shoe. I mean which was a big step up from wood
[06:43] Yes clogs
[06:45] Yeah
[06:49] It's got to be so when do we think the term came about do you think this is like a strictly like it's a noir
[06:55] Era turn of the century sort of thing. Yeah. Oh, I was thinking like 20s. Yeah, okay
[07:00] Yeah, and does that help us narrow down the etymology at all?
[07:08] Do you think it's strictly an American thing?
[07:12] Well, I mean could it be British?
[07:18] So we're ruling out Shakespeare, right? I don't think Shakespeare dropped it a gumshoe
[07:25] Yeah, when did gum get invented gums been around for ages, okay, like how long
[07:34] I
[07:35] Mean Wrigley was like the big mass producer, right?
[07:39] Right, and they made their fortune in the late 1800s. I would say right
[07:47] Yeah 1870s 1880s. Yeah, sure cuz you've got a you've got a mass-produced
[07:53] Like flattened sugar for people to chew, right?
[07:57] Well, but I mean even going back like there was natural like cheek lay, right? Okay. Okay from the Americas
[08:06] Um
[08:07] But did they call that gum?
[08:13] Cheek-lay
[08:17] Where the gum came gum I think is an American thing that I would guess I don't know
[08:23] What was a Gumby's horse's name?
[08:30] Pokey Pokey. Yeah. Yeah
[08:33] What kind of what kind of person doesn't know Gumby's horse apparently me you're judging me right now. Mm-hmm
[08:42] The online etymology dictionary is pretty short and sweet
[08:47] Says plain clothes detective 1906 from the rubber-soled shoes. They wore allowing stealthy movement
[08:54] hmm, so earlier than we thought but we were on it for the
[09:00] shoe
[09:02] Shoe type
[09:04] So it's the gum gum shoe is also known as galoshes. So that's what I'm getting from Wikipedia
[09:10] So it was basically the change from a leather shoe to a rubber-soled shoe
[09:17] That's what we
[09:19] We get gums. Yeah, right so they could like sneak around and watch and watch you
[09:24] Yeah, so gum shoe is actually a verb
[09:29] whoa
[09:31] to sneak around quietly
[09:34] I'm gonna gumshoe that party
[09:38] Why would you do that that's stalking that's different
[09:43] Are you sure it sounds like either in order to rob or to catch these?
[09:49] But by 1908 gumshoe usually meant a police detective as it has ever since
[09:56] So we did pretty good. Yeah. Yeah gummy rubber-soled shoes
[10:02] Yeah, pretty close on the time frame
[10:04] Call that a guy
[10:06] The the noun dick in the detective sense
[10:10] Traces back to the 19th century around 1864
[10:15] Criminal underworld slang verb again to dick meant to watch
[10:25] Came from Romany
[10:27] the language of the
[10:30] Gypsies, which I know is a
[10:32] Mmm, not the greatest term, but sure those people's
[10:36] Yeah, which use the word dick D I K which mean to learn to see
[10:45] as far as gum goes
[10:47] New England settlers picked up the practice of American Indians
[10:51] Who chewed resin from sap the sap of spruce trees?
[10:55] But John B. Curtis developed and sold the first commercial chewing gum called the state of Maine pure spruce gum in
[11:04] 1848 that's been a just ton of private detectives back in day. Why is there so much slang for these dudes?
[11:18] Yeah, like
[11:19] It's just the kind of stuff like you
[11:21] This kind of stuff you hire these guys when you don't like the police won't do it. Yeah
[11:28] Police forces back then probably yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean for sure
[11:35] I've seen a lot of episodes of magnet PI. He seems really useful
[11:40] It's true
[11:42] If you need a good mustache, that's right. We're right around in a red
[11:52] Ferrari, I don't know some sort of thing that I've ever seen an episode of Magnum PI what I've seen that
[11:58] I've seen the beginning a billion times. All right, then I've seen a different channel
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[12:18] Don't you pour the rest of that beer out?
[12:22] For the pain my soul just went, you know, your mother has never had sex don't worry about it. It's fine
[12:32] Got his mic
[12:36] He's out of control