Why Am I Sticky?

[00:06] Oh, we do it under Google rules that was the playa super excited told us we had to
[00:17] so we said we signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true
[00:25] than Google can give you red tape if you got anything on red tape where the
[00:31] phrase red tape comes from or why we use it that makes things difficult to get
[00:37] into why we have to go through red tape to solve crimes or to get through
[00:47] litigation so the the meaning is like sort of like unnecessary obstruction yeah
[00:55] to like bureaucracy yeah yeah yeah yeah and I don't know red tape I don't know why
[01:04] we call it red tape and maybe it's very literal maybe it's sort of like they put
[01:10] red tape around a crime scene or something but I don't know why we use it
[01:15] and I figured I'd ask my three smartest friends and then Google later I mean it
[01:22] sounds it sounds super literal to me but I just don't know which you know which
[01:28] place was being taped off yeah not sure if it's red crime scene tape or whether
[01:34] there were like red post-it notes that bureaucrats used a flag for audits or
[01:41] something yeah well I mean I think that the phrase suggests to me that we had to
[01:48] give us a timeline we have to have the color red and we have to have tape so
[01:55] when was when was red invented we'll start there I mean I think before or
[01:59] after the Chinese invented fireworks it was probably before yeah probably I
[02:07] don't know I'm guessing tape was invented by 3m and they perfected and red was
[02:19] invented by probably the Romans okay given once again giving Western
[02:32] civilization civilization way too much credit so you think when when 3m opened
[02:38] their first Italian branch voila no I mean so so we've done we've done pods on
[02:49] this before we've done to Google was on this for red is the most visible to human
[02:56] sight we also know that it is a sign of danger because of blood and you know
[03:06] like whatever like it's it means stop like we know red is bad either the
[03:11] cheapest form of paint or the most expensive form of paint exactly exactly
[03:16] exactly so we know that red is a thing red is a dramatic color is a thing well
[03:22] it is a color it's a dramatic color and it's been dramatic over history so we
[03:27] know that much so so the tape part is probably interesting maybe but could it
[03:32] be like ticker tape like does that have to be sticky tape is it like just a you
[03:37] know like when you say tape you don't necessarily have to have you know glue
[03:43] on the back right right but I mean I mean I feel like the the context of it is
[03:49] always like something that's in your way you know like it's it's always so it's
[03:53] sticky you know so why am I stick earlier I mean like if you were doing
[03:58] paperwork that literally had a lot of red tape you'd have to like you know if it
[04:02] was like a folder that was like sealed shut with like red tape or something like
[04:05] that you have to cut open you know everything to do anything you know
[04:09] that's the kind of like you know the way I sort of think about that I guess
[04:12] so when did secrets start then I'm guessing that was sort of definitely
[04:22] with blind of the elder okay yeah everyone had perfect knowledge and then
[04:35] yeah I do wonder Joey yeah if it's something that whatever like things that
[04:42] came in the mail were sealed with red tape or something like that it was like
[04:46] okay during the days where everything had to be done by correspondence that you
[04:53] would have to unseal a thing and fill out another form or something well what
[04:58] about red wax seals mm-hmm I don't know how that's tape but I don't either but
[05:10] certainly yeah it's red and potentially it could have been read like it just
[05:18] depends on the color of wax bar that you had right right right right so time frame
[05:25] we're thinking like pre facts is what we're by the way I went this week and
[05:34] I'm getting old so I need a new prescription every year for my reading
[05:38] went to a new place this week I guess I won't mention their name because I don't
[05:44] want to give them any business but everything was like checkup went fine
[05:49] things are good whatever at the end I'm like asking first off you have to give
[05:55] them your frames and they send them away for like a week to replace the lenses
[06:02] and then you get them back what like the ones that you're using the one
[06:05] that's the ones that you're using unless you're gonna buy new ones and I
[06:08] was like I don't want to buy new ones what are you talking about and so
[06:13] anyway so I was like so can you like give me my prescription so that I can
[06:17] order like a backup pair on the cheap you know because if you do it through
[06:21] that place it's always expensive even though insurance helps but they're like
[06:27] yeah yeah yeah sure I was like yeah can you just email it to me and they're
[06:30] like yeah no we don't really have access to email I was like what they're like
[06:36] we'll print it out for you and if you need a second copy we you can call them
[06:40] we'll just fax it to you and I was like you're aware that it's 2020 right like
[06:45] you I literally got an email reminder that I had this appointment like what
[06:51] are you talking about you don't have email and then they like texted me later
[06:55] I was like so you can text but you can't email me with insane that's gotta be some
[07:01] weird HIPAA interpretation or something maybe faxing anything at this point is
[07:10] definitely red tape for sure for sure oh yeah for sure thank you that's like to
[07:16] the conversation yeah the last time I needed something to fax was it was it was
[07:22] like I was driving around looking for a place that had a fax machine oh yeah I
[07:26] don't even know yeah like none of the offices I work for like they're all
[07:30] technology companies they don't have a fax machine like yeah it's usually
[07:34] insurance or healthcare related that you have to fax something and then
[07:38] you've got to go find it you know a FedEx with their one fact fax machine
[07:46] in the back everybody points and laughs at you while you do it all right so we
[07:53] think it's like people ceiling envelopes with red wax or something like that I'm
[07:59] no I think I think it's 3m out of Minnesota they came up with red tape and
[08:04] the moment they did it the United States government started rolling all their
[08:10] folders in it and just you could be it's not getting Bobby is pretty sure
[08:17] so I'm guessing like you know 1940s well but when did they come up with red tape
[08:30] you know what I'm saying that's right they had been building up the lobby are
[08:37] you are you individually sponsored by 3m I just didn't tell them they're the
[08:44] ones that came up with Post-it notes I know that's the case so that I'm just
[08:47] sticking with them with like stickiness and adhesives that's what I'm
[08:50] going with sure I don't I don't know enough this is why I asked you guys all I
[08:56] got is 3m and the color red is bad I think rockers has been around forever
[09:04] so I'll go earlier okay so what do you think you think you're thinking black
[09:11] plague maybe like late 1800s early 1900s okay well I like that I like that so do
[09:24] you think America though you're thinking like Europe just seems European to me
[09:31] seems like it should be European but I mean it's an idiom like I don't know how
[09:39] widely you don't run across a lot of idioms that are translated from other
[09:45] languages so it's either the British or it's yeah yeah yeah I don't know the
[09:54] well the French Rouge tape 3m Rouge all right what do you got what do you got
[10:08] Jason it is generally believed this is according to Wikipedia that the term
[10:24] originated with the Spanish administration of Charles the fifth
[10:27] jeez King of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor so technically it was the Romans in the
[10:34] early 16th century who started to use red tape in an effort to modernize the
[10:40] administration that was running his vast empire red tape was used to bind
[10:45] most important administrative dossiers that required immediate discussion by the
[10:50] Council of State so it was like a signifier of like classified info
[10:57] and it's not urgent really tape it's not really a story right yeah yeah yeah why
[11:06] is it called tape I guess I guess I have a misunderstanding of maybe tape existed
[11:13] longer in the vernacular vernacular well so it was as early as let's see 17th so
[11:21] in in David Copperfield not the magician the book right Dickens writes
[11:28] Britannia that unfortunate female is always before me like a trust foul
[11:34] skewered through and through with office pens and bound hand and foot with red
[11:39] tape oh wow well how so guessing that the term tape is just anything that held
[11:47] things together before 3m turned it into a trademark you think I'm not but I don't
[11:55] I'm not getting the the connection between like the inconvenience or like
[12:02] obstacle from any of this stuff like in fact the first like the you're saying
[12:06] the first one that sounded to me like this is an important document get to this
[12:10] now like instead of instead of like you know there's extra paperwork I gotta do
[12:15] like it's unnecessary it's a good point that's what I'm seeing I don't know how
[12:27] to solve that other than the fact that in order to get to whatever documents
[12:33] were super important you literally had to cut the red tape sure yeah and so
[12:38] I've got here that that essentially tape tape was invented by dr. Horace day
[12:49] in 1845 he was a surgeon he was using it for to bandage patients so so tape itself
[12:58] maybe not the term of it but tape itself wouldn't have been invented for another
[13:02] couple hundred years so they the Dickens must have been referring to some other
[13:10] kind of yeah yeah so tape had some different I mean I maybe maybe that's
[13:17] just when I looked that up that's just adhesive tape right that's that's tape
[13:20] that you would try to bind a wound with right so maybe tape had some different
[13:25] meaning during Dickens era so legal and official documents have been bound with
[13:34] red tape since the 17th century and continued to be so the use of it as a
[13:41] fussy or unnecessary bureaucracy phrase finder has the first usage of that in
[13:47] 1796 which was part of a satire of the fussiness of English law and I
[14:00] do think of the English as fussy so and all those British listeners out there can
[14:14] suck it one by one or which is ticking all the other countries off the list so
[14:20] the word tape it appears comes from old English meaning a narrow strip of cloth
[14:26] use your tiring tiring or measuring etc nice okay well that's very certain
[14:33] origin but it's a back formation from Latin tepet a cloth or carpet but
[14:42] basically since the dawn of or from old freesian tapia middle German top in to
[14:53] pull pluck or tear okay so the word tapes are long before we came up with
[15:00] adhesives yeah that's amazing that's awesome yeah I did not know that and and
[15:09] and so we've we've kind of decided is that the Spanish decided that red was a
[15:19] signifying color to tie their confidential documents up or they're
[15:24] important things so like you're sending some shit to King James no who was it the
[15:31] Philip Charles Chuck no Chuck pay attention to this I'm gonna bind it and
[15:38] read and that's right point thing cuz check is getting you know you put a
[15:42] ribbon around it or a string as long as it's red it's like hey this is the big
[15:46] deal and we've already talked about how red historically in human history is a
[15:51] big deal and it doesn't have to have adhesive on it okay got it okay you're
[16:00] welcome America