Rad-ish

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[01:42] Is horseradish actually a radish? Why is horseradish named horseradish?
[01:52] And are they related because they taste not the same?
[01:58] And so that is the beginning of my question.
[02:01] We need to answer that before we have to ask the other questions.
[02:05] Oh, OK. OK.
[02:07] So those couple several questions are part one.
[02:09] Yeah, that's part one.
[02:11] Wow. So this is I'd say more than more than three prongs.
[02:14] It could be like a twelve prong question, but like my question is.
[02:17] It's like a fractal of prongs. Every prong has three prongs.
[02:20] Is a horseradish a radish?
[02:24] Is horseradish is horseradish related to horses?
[02:29] They may like it. I don't know.
[02:32] So OK. So I think that horseradish is part of the radish family.
[02:37] OK, I don't think the taste is. I mean, obviously it's sharper.
[02:41] No, it's way shorter. I think the spice.
[02:43] But I don't think it's like super far away.
[02:46] Actually, I was at the farmer's market a week ago or something.
[02:49] They had all these weird radishes that were like like a big purple one,
[02:54] like the size of a football or something like that.
[02:58] I have no idea. The corona radish.
[03:01] They told me at the time, but I forget.
[03:03] And then they had another little tiny one that was like brown
[03:07] and kind of look like a like a coconut almost different kind of radish.
[03:12] So people are starting to get back to these like heirloom radishes,
[03:17] original heirloom radishes.
[03:19] Yeah, basically like, you know how there used to be like or maybe you don't know
[03:23] there used to be like hundreds of different kinds of potatoes
[03:27] like grown in the Americas like back in, you know,
[03:31] when the the indigenous peoples lived here and whatnot.
[03:35] And now we're down to like a russet and a Idaho and a.
[03:40] And a golden sweet potato or something like that.
[03:43] Yeah. Anywho, so I think that horseradish is a root vegetable part
[03:49] of the radish family that is just super sharp.
[03:53] Why it is called horseradish. I have no idea.
[03:56] Well, so and this is my question.
[03:58] So I thought to myself, where is the radish discovered?
[04:02] Where is the horseradish covered?
[04:05] Is it is this a is this connected to the idea of horses?
[04:10] Therefore, is it a horse peoples that discover it?
[04:14] Ah, OK, I'm saying.
[04:17] Sure. Wait, horse people.
[04:20] Well, like, OK, so like, I mean,
[04:23] if you have a horse society, like there are people that there are
[04:27] civilizations to grow up without horses.
[04:29] Centaurs.
[04:31] Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[04:33] Like, so in you're thinking in Lord of the Rings, like the Rowan.
[04:38] Yeah, the Rowan people, they're like, oh, this is like a horsey sauce,
[04:43] you know, whichever, whatever, you know, versus like the Arby's people.
[04:47] Right.
[04:50] Did you know that Arby's is a is it's named after the founder or maybe
[04:57] their brothers? Yeah, they're like the I forget what the R stands for,
[05:02] but they're like the Roderick brothers or something like that.
[05:06] And so it's our be it's a phonetic pronunciation of their initials.
[05:11] Huh. Hmm.
[05:13] At least according to the crossword puzzles that I do.
[05:16] Oh, nice.
[05:21] Sorry. So go back.
[05:22] What were you saying?
[05:23] It is horsey people found the radish.
[05:25] The radish grew in where horsey people lived.
[05:29] When did we come up with the word horse?
[05:31] What?
[05:32] Where did that region come from?
[05:34] What are horses?
[05:36] Why are they connected the radish?
[05:38] This is my question.
[05:39] What are horses?
[05:41] No, you know what I'm saying.
[05:43] Where did they come from?
[05:44] When did they come up with the word with it?
[05:45] Why is it connected to the word horse radish?
[05:47] This is what I thought of when I was eating this shrimp cocktail.
[05:50] Anybody have any idea?
[05:52] We have a timeline.
[05:53] We have a region.
[05:54] Is it connected to horses at all?
[05:56] Is it a totally different thing?
[05:57] Am I just making stuff up?
[05:59] So I mean, it's called horse radish English.
[06:01] Like I don't think that that's a direct translation from another language.
[06:06] Like if my first guess would be maybe Japan.
[06:10] They use it prominently.
[06:12] They do for sure.
[06:13] And they're cooking now.
[06:16] And what's ginger?
[06:17] Ginger's like a.
[06:18] Ginger is a brute.
[06:20] It's just a straight up route.
[06:21] Yeah.
[06:22] Yep.
[06:23] Because horse radish is much like that.
[06:24] Yeah.
[06:25] It's also a root, but also so is a radish.
[06:28] Right.
[06:29] But is, I mean,
[06:30] they're all root radishes.
[06:31] We know it.
[06:32] Is it, is it actually a vegetable?
[06:35] Yes, definitely.
[06:37] Why?
[06:38] It's a root vegetable.
[06:39] You remember last week we talked about fruits.
[06:41] That's a good thing.
[06:42] They have seeds.
[06:43] These are root vegetables.
[06:44] I think ginger, horse radish and radish are all root vegetables.
[06:48] Like carrots.
[06:49] Ginger's a vegetable?
[06:50] Ginger's like a root spice.
[06:52] No, that's a root vegetable.
[06:54] I don't know where that,
[06:55] I don't know where you draw the line of what.
[06:58] Yeah.
[07:01] I don't know where the line is between.
[07:04] I'm going to take this part of the root and,
[07:06] and eat that like a bulby root.
[07:10] Yeah.
[07:11] I mean, I think roots and tubers as one thing as separate from vegetables.
[07:15] Okay.
[07:16] And I would put ginger and horse radish into the root and tuber range.
[07:19] Yes.
[07:20] Okay.
[07:21] Yeah.
[07:22] Root and tuber.
[07:23] Root and tuber.
[07:24] Root, root and tuber.
[07:27] But I mean, I don't know.
[07:29] And.
[07:32] So do you think that a horse radish,
[07:35] I've actually never seen a horse radish in the flesh, if you will.
[07:41] I think it looks just like ginger, I think.
[07:44] It looks like.
[07:45] Yeah.
[07:46] So maybe.
[07:47] So do you think it's related to what we call a radish,
[07:50] the pinky thing or like the weird purple things that I saw at the
[07:54] farmer's market?
[07:55] I wouldn't have thought so.
[07:57] Okay.
[07:58] But I don't know.
[07:59] So why do we name them the same then?
[08:01] Maybe the taste is the thing.
[08:03] Maybe, you know, radishes and some of these radishes that I,
[08:07] I, they had free samples at the farmer's market.
[08:10] Some of them were like super sharp.
[08:12] Like got a bite.
[08:13] Yeah.
[08:14] And I think that's a good thing to it.
[08:16] So maybe it's because of the taste is related.
[08:19] They're like, oh yeah, this is a.
[08:21] And maybe that maybe horses.
[08:24] Ate the.
[08:25] The greens.
[08:28] Of the.
[08:30] Okay.
[08:31] So I've definitely had the greens in like salads and stuff before.
[08:37] Maybe the horses like them.
[08:39] All right.
[08:40] So when did, when did horse radish come about, I guess?
[08:42] I mean,
[08:43] I don't know.
[08:44] I don't know.
[08:45] I don't know.
[08:46] I don't know.
[08:47] I don't know.
[08:48] I don't know.
[08:49] I don't know.
[08:50] But do we have a region of the world when,
[08:54] when did it come in popular use in Western culture?
[08:56] And when did we name it horse radish? Yes.
[08:58] So I don't think we were the first people to use it.
[09:00] No, I agree with you.
[09:01] I agree with you.
[09:02] Yeah.
[09:03] I'm going to go back to.
[09:04] Ancient Asia.
[09:05] Asia.
[09:06] Okay.
[09:07] Asia.
[09:08] That's what I would guess.
[09:09] And then.
[09:10] And then Europe gets a hold of it and calls it the horse radish
[09:14] Confidence.
[09:15] Is that a theory?
[09:16] One potential theory or they suck at translation.
[09:23] And so they it's a what do you call that when it's a transliteration is not the
[09:29] very word, but they just heard it wrong.
[09:33] You know, maybe the word in like vamoose, vamanos,
[09:37] right?
[09:38] Like the word in
[09:40] Chinese or whatever.
[09:44] Mandarin sounded similar to horse radish,
[09:47] so they just started calling it a horse radish, or whatever.
[09:50] Right.
[09:51] Or maybe Genghis Khan named it horse radish,
[09:53] and who knows?
[09:55] Right, well, yeah, because I think he was a horsey guy.
[09:58] He was, but my theory was if there was a radish,
[10:00] somebody already has a radish,
[10:02] and then they wanna modify a radish,
[10:06] it probably wouldn't be a mistranslation, right?
[10:10] Okay, so one theory is that it was selective breeding
[10:13] that brought about the horse radish.
[10:18] Potentially, or that somebody said,
[10:20] this is a radish, it's like a radish,
[10:23] but it's also horse-like.
[10:26] The root looks like a horse, like a seahorse.
[10:29] Right.
[10:31] I don't know.
[10:32] So, can anybody look up horse radish for me?
[10:34] Because I think we've given our terrible business.
[10:37] Well, let's come up with what our best theory is first.
[10:40] So, you're saying Asia, I'm saying.
[10:43] And unrelated, I'm saying unrelated to the radish.
[10:46] Right, and I'm saying that there's Irish people,
[10:50] or English people in the middle ages
[10:53] that used to live off of turnips and radishes,
[10:56] and they found this root,
[10:58] and they were like, this is a radish-ish thing.
[11:04] Maybe it was cool, but only kinda cool,
[11:08] so they called it rad-ish.
[11:11] It's radish, it's not ish, it's not the best.
[11:14] Is that fully radish?
[11:16] Yeah, it's radish.
[11:20] I like that, I like that.
[11:22] This horse is only rad-ish-ish.
[11:27] I think that's our best answer.
[11:29] Okay.
[11:30] Joey, you got anything?
[11:32] Outside of a 70s pun?
[11:36] Mm-hmm.
[11:39] I think you guys have covered all the bases,
[11:41] then I did not that long ago watch.
[11:46] Horse radish is one of the main components of wasabi, right?
[11:51] And I watched a dude eat like a,
[11:58] not quite a golf ball size,
[11:59] but maybe a marble size, the big marble.
[12:03] You know, the big one.
[12:06] Sure.
[12:07] Well, what's that called when you're playing marbles?
[12:10] We can't have an undegoogleball inside an undegoogle.
[12:14] But he ate one of those, and the entire room
[12:16] thought he was gonna, was gonna ralph.
[12:18] He did not, congratulations, but.
[12:21] What was his name?
[12:23] I don't know, just a guy, I don't remember.
[12:25] Shout out just a guy.
[12:27] Yeah.
[12:27] We did not ralph.
[12:29] Mm-hmm.
[12:30] So, horse radish and radish are part
[12:32] of the same family of vegetables.
[12:34] It is a root vegetable that belonged
[12:36] to the Brassicaceae family.
[12:40] The scientific name of horse radish is Armoraceae rusticana.
[12:45] The common radish is called Raphanis sativus.
[12:50] Probably indigenous to.
[12:54] I'm seeing Europe.
[12:55] South Eastern Europe or Western Asia.
[12:57] Okay, so we're both kind of right?
[13:00] Oh, we've got, I mean, yeah.
[13:02] Greek, so the Delphic Oracle told Apollo
[13:05] that horse radish is worth its weight in gold,
[13:07] so we know it's old.
[13:09] Like Greek, pre-Greek.
[13:14] Pre-Greek, okay.
[13:17] So the word horse radish is attested in England,
[13:20] in English, from the 1590s.
[13:23] It combines the word horse, formally used
[13:26] in a figurative sense, to mean strong or coarse,
[13:30] and the word radish.
[13:33] In Central and Eastern Europe,
[13:34] horse radish is called crin.
[13:38] So, also fun things that you mentioned, Harper,
[13:42] that they live in the Brassicaceae family.
[13:48] Mustard, wasabi, broccoli, and cabbage
[13:50] also live in that family.
[13:52] What's a fun, weird family?
[13:55] It's a wide-ranging family.
[13:57] Exactly, exactly.
[13:59] Because the German word for horse radish is mare radish,
[14:04] which means sea radish,
[14:06] because it initially was grown by the sea.
[14:10] English came and mistook the name
[14:11] and pronounced it as mare radish,
[14:14] and it was eventually changed to horse radish,
[14:16] denoting its herch and large size of the root.
[14:21] Who knows if that's true.
[14:22] This is according to Alpen Wild,
[14:24] but I thought that was kind of...
[14:25] I like that, right?
[14:26] Because a mare is a...
[14:27] The idea that it was a...
[14:28] A horse.
[14:29] Yeah, exactly.
[14:31] I like that a lot.
[14:33] The Egyptians do horse radish as far back as 1500 BC,
[14:37] according to horseradish.org.
[14:40] Radish is not over.
[14:43] That was a dot org you didn't know
[14:44] you were gonna find today.