Whole Bowl of Cherries

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[00:17] This one, Jason, this is coming in from Jill.
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[00:32] We do under Google rules.
[00:34] That was the play of Super Excited.
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[00:49] So in a panic moment before the pod said, hey,
[00:53] we need an under Google.
[00:55] And she said, which I thought was sort of an interesting
[00:57] question that I had never really thought about, is why
[00:59] is it called the Super Bowl?
[01:01] It's Super Bowl Sunday here.
[01:04] Why is the contest called a bowl?
[01:06] Why are bowl games bowl games?
[01:10] What's that all about?
[01:11] Where does that come from?
[01:13] Is it because they play them in a stadium
[01:15] that's shaped like a bowl?
[01:18] That's definitely my first thought.
[01:20] It may be like it probably started in colleges,
[01:23] which tend to have, I mean, all open air stadiums
[01:28] or didn't till, you know, the past 15 years.
[01:31] Because no one could afford a true stadium.
[01:33] Right.
[01:36] But they don't call like it the,
[01:38] it's the AFC championship game.
[01:40] It's not the AFC championship bowl, you know?
[01:43] That's true.
[01:44] Reserved for maybe the last game of the year.
[01:49] Yeah.
[01:50] Do you think it's because they get some sort of loving cup
[01:52] or something?
[01:53] There's always a bowl on top of the trophies.
[01:55] Oh yeah.
[01:56] Oh, okay.
[01:58] Well, no, some of them are just like,
[02:01] you know, just some dude, right?
[02:04] Well, so the Lombardi trophy is like a football.
[02:07] Or it's like a football on a pedestal kind of thing.
[02:10] But maybe the original one wasn't, you know,
[02:14] when it went back to the convention of naming,
[02:17] like the Rose Bowl, did you win an actual bowl?
[02:22] With some roses in it?
[02:23] Yeah, or the Peach Bowl, did you get some peaches?
[02:27] Millions of peaches.
[02:29] Yeah.
[02:30] And there's even stuff like so, Wazoo and U-Dub,
[02:33] their rivalry is called the Apple Cup.
[02:40] What's the-
[02:41] They couldn't afford a bowl.
[02:42] Right, right.
[02:44] The Hoosiers and the Boy of the Americas
[02:46] play for a bucket, you know?
[02:49] They can't even-
[02:49] Yeah, that's a bucket.
[02:50] That's some Midwestern shit right there.
[02:52] Four dishes.
[02:56] I think there's an iron bowl somewhere.
[02:59] Uh-huh, yeah, I think that's Alabama Auburn, maybe.
[03:04] Then there's like a, what is it,
[03:07] Wisconsin and Minnesota play for like Paul Bunyan's Axe
[03:11] or something like that.
[03:13] That seems right.
[03:16] I mean, that seems like something worth playing for.
[03:19] Like, if you're gonna clear some forests,
[03:22] you want a big axe, so.
[03:24] Sure.
[03:27] Or maybe you're an environmentalist
[03:29] and you don't want the axe.
[03:31] Maybe.
[03:33] If you could play for Paul Bunyan, that would be ideal.
[03:36] You can do whatever with a giant.
[03:38] It's true.
[03:40] So I guess, I always hear bowls, yeah, Jason,
[03:42] I think you're right, it's the last game of the year,
[03:45] the college ones, they've got the blockbuster bowl.
[03:50] Maybe that's not been for a while, but.
[03:52] Yeah.
[03:56] There probably was one of those.
[03:58] They got a million bowls.
[03:59] You don't have the teams in college football
[04:01] or in the scissors bowl or whatever.
[04:09] But it is the end of the season.
[04:12] But yeah, I don't.
[04:15] Maybe it's just a naming convention
[04:16] that's just caught on and just because
[04:19] that's what they're all called these days.
[04:21] Even the new ones are called something bowl, right?
[04:23] Yeah.
[04:24] But it's very specific to football.
[04:27] It's only football, it's like that.
[04:29] Right.
[04:34] I do remember reading at some point years ago
[04:42] that the Super Bowl, I think,
[04:43] has something to do with this Super Bowl,
[04:47] like the little bouncy ball.
[04:49] What?
[04:50] I think that just maybe when it was a newer invention,
[04:55] somebody who worked for the NFL back in those days
[05:01] saw his son's toy.
[05:03] I think this was the story
[05:04] and then he's like, that's a Super Bowl.
[05:06] And then he thought that would sound cool.
[05:09] It would be a good name.
[05:10] So I think that's how.
[05:12] I mean, it definitely stuck.
[05:13] Sure.
[05:15] I think that's how that particular bowl got named.
[05:19] And it makes sense, too.
[05:20] It's the championship for professional football.
[05:24] Yeah.
[05:25] Does football have the most trophies?
[05:26] Do they have the most?
[05:29] Because there's no, I mean,
[05:31] there's certainly trophies for NBA and MLB.
[05:36] But I feel like football has lots of trophies.
[05:39] Like there's lots of intercollegiate stuff
[05:42] that results in, right?
[05:44] Well, this is just today's people getting soft.
[05:49] It's the millennials, man.
[05:49] Everybody gets a trophy.
[05:52] I mean, if you just won a trophy, go play football.
[05:55] That's what I've always said.
[05:57] Yeah, super soft sport.
[05:59] Yeah.
[06:02] That's right.
[06:03] Well, because when you're older,
[06:04] you won't be able to remember what's going on in your life.
[06:07] So you just look at that trophy.
[06:09] Too soon.
[06:11] I mean, they play in tights.
[06:12] Like, come on.
[06:17] You're right, though.
[06:18] It's not like, I don't feel like the college soccer,
[06:22] they don't just say, okay,
[06:24] you finished third in your conference
[06:26] and this team finished fifth in their conference.
[06:28] So you're gonna go play a single game in Hawaii.
[06:31] To decide who's better, right?
[06:34] Which, which.
[06:35] Because it doesn't matter.
[06:36] Right.
[06:37] And you've already played twice this year.
[06:38] Right.
[06:41] I feel like this is gonna be like a real under-Google-able.
[06:43] Like, we're not gonna be able
[06:44] to get a very satisfying answer to this.
[06:46] Hmm.
[06:47] But I think I'm on board for, yeah,
[06:51] it has something to do with,
[06:53] I do you think it's trophies or arenas?
[06:56] Those are our best guesses, right?
[06:57] Or is it like, so you have other things like called
[07:01] tournaments that are called cups, right?
[07:03] So like the World Cup or the College Cup
[07:05] or the Stanley Cup playoffs.
[07:08] Which I guess that's named after the trophy, but.
[07:12] So maybe like cup was like a tournament
[07:14] and then bowl was like, it's a single game.
[07:17] So it's the whole bowl of cherries or something.
[07:21] I don't know.
[07:25] I can see it, yeah, so the cups are always a tournament.
[07:27] Yeah.
[07:28] Or it's like, it's a series.
[07:30] What do you keep all the marbles in?
[07:32] Do you keep those in a bowl?
[07:33] Ooh.
[07:34] I think they go in a jar, don't they?
[07:37] They go in a jar.
[07:38] Yeah.
[07:39] The super jar.
[07:40] Yes.
[07:44] That's why you're not marketing.
[07:45] I feel like that's, maybe like in fencing
[07:46] they play for a jar.
[07:48] I think you're right.
[07:53] If it's a series of games, then it would be a cup.
[07:56] If it's a single game and it's football only.
[08:00] But how many other professional sports
[08:02] is not just a single game?
[08:05] But the World Cup though, the finals is the final.
[08:07] Well, yeah, but they have all tournament.
[08:10] Yeah, I mean, but the NFL playoffs
[08:12] are a tournament too, you know?
[08:14] I'm stuck on this.
[08:15] Yeah, but originally it was like they played in the,
[08:18] it was the winner of the AFL versus the NFL.
[08:21] Oh yeah, you're right.
[08:22] You're right.
[08:23] And that was the Super Bowl.
[08:24] Or your superb owl.
[08:26] Right.
[08:28] Yeah, we should be saying that
[08:29] because we can't pay for the rights to say Super Bowl.
[08:33] They're definitely gonna come after us.
[08:35] Those owls are superb, I will say.
[08:38] But yeah, I think it's gonna be the trophy.
[08:41] You know, it's sort of named after the trophy.
[08:43] The term bowl originated from the Rose Bowl Stadium.
[08:49] Side of the first post-season college football games.
[08:52] Oh, okay.
[08:54] Bowl shaped design from the Yale Bowl.
[08:56] The prototype of many football stadiums
[08:59] in the United States.
[09:02] The term has since become almost anonymous
[09:05] with any major American football event.
[09:08] Generally collegiate football
[09:09] with some significant exceptions.
[09:12] The Iron Bowl is indeed Alabama Arbor.
[09:16] And there's a thing called the Egg Bowl
[09:18] between Mississippi State and Ole Miss.
[09:22] All right, that's interesting.
[09:23] My grandfather actually played in the Rose Bowl.
[09:26] Whoa.
[09:27] Really?
[09:28] That's awesome.
[09:29] Yeah, and weird footnote.
[09:31] That year, the Rose Bowl was played on the East Coast.
[09:36] What?
[09:37] Whoa.
[09:37] World War II.
[09:40] Afraid to have it on the West Coast
[09:42] because I thought they were afraid that their stadium
[09:44] might get bombed in the middle of the game.
[09:46] It was post-World Harper.
[09:48] Yeah.
[09:49] So they played it like Duke or something.
[09:51] I can't remember where.
[09:52] Interesting.
[09:54] Yeah.
[09:54] I did not know that.
[09:57] That's pretty wild.
[09:58] Cool.
[09:59] Where did your grandfather go to school?
[10:01] Uh, I'm gonna say Oregon.
[10:04] Okay, cool.
[10:07] Go Ducks.
[10:08] Yeah, the 42 Rose Bowl was a Duke.
[10:12] And who played?
[10:16] Let's see here.
[10:17] Oregon State.
[10:18] Okay.
[10:19] Oregon State.
[10:20] And they won.
[10:21] They beat the Duke Blue Devils.
[10:22] So my grandfather, Rose Bowl champion.
[10:25] Nice.
[10:26] Well, but they played Duke.
[10:27] That's weird.
[10:28] Which is apparently why they had it there, huh?
[10:31] I guess.
[10:32] The Big Ten was like, screw this.
[10:34] The war is on.
[10:35] We're not playing in the Rose Bowl.
[10:37] Cool.
[10:38] Oh, so the whole West Coast was basically out for that one.
[10:43] Yeah, it was shut down, yeah.
[10:45] So I am reading that Super Bowl
[10:48] does come from this dude, Lamar Hunt,
[10:51] whose daughter played with a toy called the Super Ball
[10:55] and it's stuck in his head.
[10:57] And then by the end of 1966,
[11:00] networks were referring to the day of the first game
[11:03] as Super Sunday.
[11:06] But that was referring to like the AFL championship game.
[11:10] So we've decided that it's bowls are just, yeah,
[11:14] basically like football championship games.
[11:17] And that comes from college football.
[11:18] From the Rose Bowl, specifically.
[11:20] Right.
[11:21] But then the Super Bowl is,
[11:24] it's derived from Super Ball somehow.
[11:28] Just a good name.
[11:29] Seems to have worked out pretty well.
[11:31] Yeah.
[11:32] There's been LII of them, so.
[11:35] It seems like a lot.
[11:40] Yeah.
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