Episode 78 · January 30, 2021
Ol' Silent "R"
The hosts try to work out why February is the shortest month and trace it back to Roman superstition.
“Definitely blaming the Romans.” (01:05)
Questions
Why is February the shortest month? (00:32)
Our guess
A Roman or Julian calendar fix, a math adjustment, or superstition.
A Roman or Julian calendar fix, a math adjustment, or superstition.
Reveal the answer
The answer
The first Roman calendar had 10 months, beginning in March. King Numa added January and February, giving them 28 days, and made January 29 because even numbers were considered unlucky, leaving February short. The Julian reform in 46 BC and Gregorian reform in 1582 kept that structure.
The first Roman calendar had 10 months, beginning in March. King Numa added January and February, giving them 28 days, and made January 29 because even numbers were considered unlucky, leaving February short. The Julian reform in 46 BC and Gregorian reform in 1582 kept that structure.
Verdict partly
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] Gentlemen, let's do a quick under google bowl. Oh [00:10] We do under Google rules that was the playa super excited told us we had to [00:18] We signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you in this week [00:27] My under Google is we just finished the month of February which as you know is [00:32] The shortest month of the year and my question is why is it the shortest month of the year? [00:40] Why are there? [00:43] Only 28 days in February. Why don't we chop it up evenly like have [00:50] What is it seven months of 30 days and seven months of or five months of 31 [00:56] Days, and that would get us to 365 [00:59] Be nice and easy. What the f. Why is February short? [01:05] Definitely blaming the Romans. Yeah, this is Gregorian calendar, right? [01:10] That's Gregor's fault. Yeah, Greg Wario [01:14] But like I mean, I don't know that it's not the Julian calendars fault. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm [01:21] Maybe it's the Julian calendar. I [01:24] Don't know. It's not a lunar calendar. I [01:27] Understand that I know that much [01:30] Well done, thank you, that's good now, but I'm assuming this is math right? I mean, it's just math [01:37] You I'm bad at math but you said if the 365 [01:42] If you get seven months at 30 five months at 31, we get to 365 that makes sense [01:48] What do we currently have we have seven months of? [01:52] don't we already have that seven months at 30 and [01:57] Four months of 31 or something [02:01] No, no, that's not math [02:05] What do we got we have January is 30 March May? [02:12] July August [02:14] October December are all 31. Yeah, so is that eight that's seven seven. Okay [02:25] Our days don't correspond perfectly to years [02:28] Right. Well, we have to have leap year, right? Right. We have to have that either way though [02:33] That just has to do with rotation of the earth not perfectly matching [02:38] revolutions around the Sun [02:39] Okay, so but why couldn't February be? [02:44] normally [02:45] 30 days and one [02:48] When it's in the leap year be a thirty one. Yeah, I mean that would make a lot of sense [02:54] Who's February named for is it some like crappy God that the Romans didn't like [03:01] So they're like [03:02] Yeah, I sure didn't believe [03:05] Or probably her I guess right? Yeah, that makes more sense. Right? Right [03:11] Who's February named? [03:14] Yeah, that's interesting [03:16] And why is it spelled all messed up, too? [03:25] Laboratory [03:26] February [03:28] Is it February or February? What do you say February? No, I don't say that [03:37] It's like [03:42] Yeah, yeah, no, I encountered this recently [03:45] Turmeric, you know the spice turmeric turmeric [03:48] Yeah, okay. So you knew that it's turmeric. Well, I don't know I mean there's an R in there [03:54] I'm probably just I didn't know there was an R in there until like two months [03:57] I'm probably just some douchey dude who says turmeric though. Probably everybody else in the world says [04:03] I'm also sriracha. There's a random R. I'm not just [04:09] Sr. That's not a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it is [04:16] Okay [04:18] Okay, so we're thinking that Julian [04:21] I [04:23] When he came up with the calendar like just Julius was half drunk and then [04:32] Just put 28 days in February for that [04:35] I mean was that with Julian Julian is after Julius either. I didn't really yeah [04:40] I mean he didn't do the math, but like he was the one who was like this is our calendar now y'all cuz [04:49] I thought we're not under the Gregarian calendar [04:54] We're just under Gregorian chance [05:02] So [05:03] We now use the Gregorian calendar, but I think the Gregorian calendar came around in the Middle Ages [05:08] I think that yeah, there were differences between the Gregorian calendar and the Julian calendar, which they were using in [05:15] Right and and the Gregorian calendar is just a slight adjustment of the Julian calendar [05:19] I believe so but is the only thing that they adjusted making February a dumb number of days like what else did they do? [05:26] Maybe they added I think they added the leap year [05:29] Because I think it was getting all messed up pretty sure that was one of the things they did [05:34] I'm sure that they helped account for leap year because that's a tough poll for Romans for the Romans [05:39] Yeah, for sure. I'm pretty sure that although [05:42] The Mayans it turns out had it figured out. That's true [05:46] They had 12 30-day months and then they adjusted for like the slop at the end of the year [05:52] They had like a week-long celebration or whatever which in leap years was like an extra day long [05:57] Which is totally the way to be there just weren't days for it. It was just yeah. Hey, we're just remarking anything. It was like it [06:03] That's awesome. Yeah, it was like an interim. I mean they kept track of things, but it had its own special like yeah [06:09] This is time and now Marty growl. Yeah [06:13] Yeah, and just like I think we should instead of that after December we should throw that in the middle of like July [06:19] Right, okay when it's nice and warm out, you know when the weather's good. Yeah. Yeah, I think we need to put this bill for Congress to be [06:27] The media every year we get a week off yeah or 10 days whatever yeah [06:36] Okay, so we know nothing what we're saying we know what we're gonna [06:41] It's clearly a math thing right? Somebody decided the math [06:46] made sense for February [06:48] To be and clearly this is something on the Gregorian or on the Gregorian calendar [06:54] so we know that even if the Romans had it figured out we know that [06:58] the Gregorian calendar still [07:00] Does this right so we know it's part of the Gregorian calendar [07:03] I guess we don't know if it was part of the Julian calendar, right? Correct [07:08] Was there some point where like there were not? [07:12] 12 months or something like that like there were [07:16] 10 or 11 months or something like that and so then they had to like create a couple new ones and be like [07:20] Yeah, that definitely sounds right. I feel like the Julian calendar like had 10 months or something [07:26] so I there are months that came from the Romans like August it's from Augustus, right, right, so I [07:35] Feel like by the Roman calendar predated the Julian calendar, right? [07:39] So I feel like by the time you get the Julian counter you've got your Augustus [07:43] maybe [07:45] Okay, or did Augustus Augustus didn't Augustus came before Caesar. I thought Augustus was a Caesar [07:56] Point a Caesar, but Julia these Julius was yeah last right so yeah in my head Augustus must have predated him [08:04] Although my Roman history has flagged a bit since college. I'm old [08:10] Hmm. I didn't I didn't even ever had it June was named after [08:17] Juniata River [08:19] Right Juniata. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Frank Vogel's alma mater. I believe that's right [08:28] March was named after marching gortat [08:32] Maybe [08:33] Well, yeah, there's a disambiguity there some say March Madness some say marching quartet. We're not [08:45] Okay, so we don't know Jack about this [08:49] But we're saying it was result we're going with [08:52] I think our consensus is that [08:56] the Gregorian when the Gregorian calendar came about they like [09:00] adjusted for some [09:03] You know miscalculations of that's when Romans right and that's where you get [09:11] So we think it was probably more evenly matched prior to the Gregorian counter, why did they do that? [09:16] Base of the question. Why did they but my theory is that the math was wrong and they were like [09:21] We'll just stick in this other month and fix the math [09:24] Well, they weren't they couldn't have been off by a full 28 days [09:29] Like there's no way the calendar would have gotten out of whack very quickly [09:34] No, I'm not saying you almost a whole month, right? Okay, but what if they took yeah, you're right [09:39] Okay, but maybe like they had 11 months and each one had like 35 days in it or something [09:45] So maybe that's what it may took up a slop [09:49] Thought that the Julian counter had it down to 12 months though. Mm-hmm [09:55] Okay, so the Julian calendar [09:58] Julius Caesar 46 BC was a reform of the Roman calendar took effect on January 145 BC how efficient [10:05] The Julian counter is still used in parts to the Eastern Orthodox Church and parts of [10:15] Oriental Orthodoxy [10:17] What is a terrible phrase and and a baptism as well as the Berbers [10:23] Okay, so it has 12 months [10:28] okay, so [10:30] the [10:33] Roman calendar [10:35] only had [10:37] devised by Romulus [10:39] Had 10 months was a lunar calendar that began at the spring equinox in March an [10:46] Ended with December [10:48] It's unclear whether there were any official months between December and March [10:53] But it's likely that they were left off because the winter time wasn't important for harvest [10:58] So I guess maybe someone's in mind so yeah fuck this time, you know [11:02] Okay, then the second king of Rome Numa Pompilis [11:06] Pompilius [11:08] Decided to make the calendar more accurate by syncing it up with the actual lunar year, which is about 354 days long [11:15] Numa tacked on two months January and February [11:21] After December to account for the new days [11:24] each of the new months had 28 days [11:27] But I [11:29] Guess it was bad luck to have even numbers or something. So he added one [11:35] Day to January which also made the year [11:39] Odd numbered [11:41] 355 but left February at 20 [11:43] How did we not guess bad luck and superstition at any point it we should have probably been all over that between the Romans and the [11:51] Middle Ages like probably should have been on the Julian calendar all 29 and 31 except [11:58] for like the inter color inter Calera years [12:02] I don't know how to say that word [12:06] So it really essentially was that favor was an add-on so it looks like [12:14] Well, but it wasn't the only add-on [12:17] That added two at the same time and they just they jacked the aduary cuz [12:21] The only thing that mattered January and February didn't exist. So yeah, they you throw on a regular now [12:28] Your your year is only [12:30] 304 days long at that point and so when you do the math you had two months one of them's got to be short-sticked [12:37] the Gregorian calendar [12:39] It was named after Pope Gregory the 8th and was introduced in [12:44] October [12:45] Gotta love the popes [12:48] October of 1582 because that's when you start a new year [12:52] Mm-hmm [12:55] Solar calendar 12 months 20 to 31 [12:59] So this is basically what we're using here [13:03] But it seems to be that there's a correlation between they're trying to hit the holidays right spring equal knocks [13:11] Right. So, you know [13:14] Vernal equal. I think that part of the reason why it's there is because they cared about where they're how holidays were [13:21] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So again superstition. I don't I just don't have a good reason why [13:27] February I mean because they don't give a crap about that time of year seems to be the most prevalent or [13:34] simplest answer to that [13:37] But I also don't really know why they're I mean, I guess because it's already the shortest month [13:42] That's why you randomly add the day in there when you need to right and I mean for what it's worth the ability to [13:50] Detect with the tools that they had on hand the Romans the Egyptians [13:55] Like all these cats seem to know about the leap year thing kind of [14:00] Which is pretty fantastic [14:02] Like they have like sticks and shit [14:05] All right [14:07] Well, there you have it [14:09] We were kind of their story of civilization right there. It's all math science and superstition. I just can't tell what's why [14:17] Sometimes it's all the above it's like some brilliant brown people in Egypt or [14:25] South America came up with these brilliant math and [14:29] Astronomical based calendars in superstitious white people were like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, we're gonna do this different way [14:35] We're gonna name it all after