Episode 73 · December 26, 2020
The People Work Hard
The hosts try to work out what Boxing Day is, guessing at the Boxer Rebellion and returned gift boxes.
“I assume it has something to do with the Boxer Rebellion.” (01:36)
Questions
What is Boxing Day? (00:34)
Our guess
Related to the Boxer Rebellion, returning boxes after Christmas, or boxing up gifts for the poor.
Related to the Boxer Rebellion, returning boxes after Christmas, or boxing up gifts for the poor.
Reveal the answer
The answer
A Commonwealth bank holiday on December 26. The OED's earliest uses (1830s) define it as the day postmen, errand boys and servants expected to receive a "Christmas box" (a tip), since servants had worked on Christmas. It is also St. Stephen's Day.
A Commonwealth bank holiday on December 26. The OED's earliest uses (1830s) define it as the day postmen, errand boys and servants expected to receive a "Christmas box" (a tip), since servants had worked on Christmas. It is also St. Stephen's Day.
Verdict partly
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] So let's, okay, let's do something that'll make you happy. [00:02] Let's move to America's favorite new podcast segment, [00:07] the Undo Googleables. [00:09] Yay! [00:22] Oh, we do an Undo Googleables. [00:24] That was the plan. [00:26] Super excited. [00:27] Told us we had to, sir. [00:29] So we signed up for it. [00:34] In the end, it's gonna be better and more true [00:36] than Google can give you. [00:40] Lighting the internet on fire. [00:42] So this week, I think it's pretty timely, [00:45] the Google question is, what is Boxing Day? [00:52] Boxing Day. [00:53] What is it? [00:54] That's not Canadian stuff. [00:54] Yeah, no, all I know is that the Canadians celebrate it [00:59] and they revere it. [01:00] I feel like it's a big deal. [01:02] It's like a natural. [01:03] Well, the British too, it's a commonwealth thing. [01:05] Oh, really? [01:06] I thought it was just Canadians. [01:07] Yeah. [01:08] Oh, okay, so it's a commonwealth thing? [01:10] I believe so. [01:11] It's a British government thing. [01:12] So it's the 26th of December every year is Boxing Day. [01:17] Right, day after Christmas. [01:18] They take a day off, right? [01:20] I know it's a big English Premier League day. [01:23] It's like the Thanksgiving of the English Premier League. [01:26] Like everybody plays on Boxing Day. [01:29] I thought it was just a day that the Canadians [01:32] took off after Christmas. [01:36] But apparently it's also England and Australia and Wales. [01:41] So I assume it has something to do with the Boxer Rebellion. [01:45] Okay. [01:46] Oh, you went deep. [01:47] I went shallow. [01:48] I was gonna say it had to do with returning boxes [01:52] to the store after Christmas. [01:55] I like that one. [01:57] You're gonna get a national holiday for returning boxes? [02:00] Yeah. [02:01] Yeah, I mean it helps out the postal service. [02:03] Stuff like that, I don't know. [02:05] It's like reverse Black Friday. [02:07] Instead of going out and buying stuff, [02:08] you're sending everything back. [02:09] Exactly. [02:11] Okay, your idea is clearly more historically relevant. [02:15] What was the Boxer Rebellion? [02:18] Well, that's the thing. [02:19] I don't know almost anything about the Boxer Rebellion. [02:23] I'm gonna say, you know, naval power, China, and- [02:35] China. [02:37] China, and like late 1900s, that's all I got. [02:41] And why was it, were there boxers involved? [02:47] No, there were people named the boxers, maybe. [02:53] I just made this stuff up now. [02:54] Were they like a political movement or something like that? [02:58] Yeah, I mean, I think that, yeah, [03:01] someone said we don't like the Brits, [03:04] and the Brits were like, [03:05] we're gonna blow you up, and the Brits won. [03:08] Okay, so they celebrate that the day of Christmas. [03:11] That's a really good reason to have a national holiday, [03:14] not returning boxes. [03:15] Honestly, Jason, sorry. [03:20] Was Guy Fawkes involved in this? [03:23] Or that was a totally different thing. [03:24] Guy Fawkes Day is like a whole different celebration, right? [03:29] Yeah, that's where they burned Sherlock, [03:31] that's where they burned John Watson [03:33] under a effigy for some reason. [03:35] Now, okay. [03:36] To Sherlock Holmes related. [03:38] He was like leading some sort of rebellion or something, [03:40] or like trying to overthrow the Queen [03:42] or something like that. [03:45] And so they celebrate him now [03:46] for trying to get rid of the monarchy. [03:48] Right, isn't that, it's something like that, right? [03:51] Guy Fawkes Day, yeah. [03:52] I assume Boxing Day is similar. [03:55] The Queen had to be saved at some point, right, [03:57] to get a national holiday. [03:59] Or tried to be killed, right? [04:00] That's what I'm saying, [04:01] but they saved her from trying to be killed. [04:03] Not weeding. [04:04] No, but I'm saying, or they tried to kill her. [04:06] Now they celebrate that person, [04:07] to throw out the shackles of the monarchy. [04:09] Like, Britain's weird, right? [04:11] They celebrate both things. [04:12] They celebrate the monarchy and getting rid of the monarchy. [04:15] Well, okay, and I feel like if Joey was here, [04:18] he would know the answer to this, [04:19] because I feel like he and Catherine celebrate Boxing Day. [04:22] Is that a thing? [04:24] I feel like he's mentioned it before. [04:26] Well, because of soccer, maybe. [04:27] Maybe because of soccer. [04:29] I'm just wondering if Catherine's family celebrates [04:33] Boxing Day. [04:36] Because they were on the other side [04:37] of this Britain, China. [04:41] Yeah. [04:42] Antagonism's full of it. [04:45] All right, I'm gonna come in with, [04:46] I don't agree with either of your thoughts on this. [04:52] I'm gonna go with, it's the day after Christmas, [04:55] and nobody wants to work, [04:57] and so we came up with a holiday. [05:00] That's my thing. [05:02] Where people hit each other in the face. [05:05] Because it's Canadian. [05:09] No, I don't think it's, you know. [05:12] It's the day that hockey was founded in Canada. [05:16] I feel like, I really do. [05:18] My entire life, I thought it was a Canadian holiday, [05:20] so what do I know? [05:21] I just assumed it was, I didn't know [05:23] that the English, the British celebrated it, [05:26] so I know nothing. [05:29] It seemed like it's held in high revere, though, in Canada. [05:34] I don't think it can just be. [05:35] Oh, I think it's a super important day, right? [05:37] Like, it's something. [05:43] I just, I think it's colonialism day. [05:45] I think it's the day that people tried to break away [05:47] and then, you know, symbolic date [05:49] upon which they held it together, maybe. [05:52] Because they do love their colonies. [05:56] Hmm, hmm. [05:59] Now I wanna know what Guy Fox Day is all about. [06:01] You look up Boxer Day, [06:04] I'm gonna look up Guy Fox. [06:05] So basically, we know nothing. [06:06] Jason's idea is that it's the day [06:09] that you box up your Christmas gifts [06:11] and send them back. [06:13] Which is my, I like that one. [06:15] Harper's idea is that it's something related [06:18] to a revolution with China. [06:22] China. [06:25] And I'm gonna go with it's something in between. [06:30] Something in between. [06:34] It's something in between. [06:36] I don't know what data points are in between there. [06:38] Way to come down. [06:40] No, for me, it's Canadian [06:42] and Canada is super nice. [06:47] They're just super nice. [06:48] And so, I think it's related to [06:54] maybe not sending gifts back, [06:56] but it's boxing up gifts and giving them to the poor. [07:01] I think it's the day, [07:04] I just wanna go with Canadian nicety. [07:07] And they give stuff to poor people [07:09] from all the riches they've gotten from Christmas. [07:12] That's what I got. [07:12] Okay, so you're getting close. [07:13] Okay, so Boxing Day is a national holiday. [07:19] It's a bank holiday in the Commonwealth nations. [07:23] Okay, so you were on that. [07:24] And the Oxford English Dictionary [07:26] gives the earliest attestations from England in the 1830s [07:31] defining it as, quote, [07:34] the first weekday after Christmas Day [07:37] observed as a holiday on which postmen, [07:40] errand boys and servants of various kinds [07:43] expect to receive a Christmas box. [07:45] Really? [07:47] And a Christmas box is basically a tip. [07:50] No, apparently not. [07:52] Apparently it's just like, [07:53] we're gonna take a bank holiday and tip your postman. [07:57] That is awesome. [07:58] So Jason, you were, [07:59] Jason, I think you get a point for that. [08:01] Yeah, that was the closest that you were the postman. [08:03] Well, we, except you were returning the gifts. [08:06] We're... [08:07] Yeah, sure, yeah. [08:09] I mean, I wasn't close at all. [08:09] Well, taking something is just money, not gifts. [08:11] So basically, I just boxed something up [08:13] for the postman to take [08:16] instead of to deliver it somewhere, it's his. [08:19] Right, you're giving those postman gifts. [08:20] Instead of making him work, [08:21] you're giving him recompense, yeah. [08:23] Yeah, and it may have originated, I guess, [08:26] even much earlier as a gift to a day for servants [08:29] that you would give something awesome to your servants [08:32] or whatever, that day. [08:34] All right, so I've got here that, yeah, [08:36] so servants were required to work on Christmas [08:40] and so servants got the day after Christmas off. [08:45] Gotcha, okay. [08:47] It's also called St. Stephen's Day. [08:50] That is fantastic. [08:52] But that's the religious thing, but yeah. [08:55] We got anything on Guy Fawkes Day? [08:56] Yeah, so Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Guy Fawkes Day, [09:00] Bond Fire Night and Firework Night [09:05] is 5 November and it celebrates Guy Fawkes, [09:10] who was a member of the Gunpowder Plot, [09:14] was arrested while guarding explosives [09:16] the plotters had placed beneath the House of Lords. [09:20] So basically, they were gonna blow up. [09:22] Yeah, they were gonna blow up Parliament. [09:24] And King James survived, obviously, [09:25] the attempt on his life. [09:27] People lit bonfires around London, the celebration, [09:30] and they chose November 5th as the day to honor that. [09:37] And they honored the guy who almost blew him up [09:40] by giving him the name. [09:45] Yes. [09:46] So I haven't dug too deep, so I don't know. [09:47] So he was guarding the explosives, [09:49] so I don't know if he actually, [09:52] if he turned over on these guys, [09:54] I guess we can find out here. [09:56] What was that movie? [10:00] Ocean's 11? [10:01] No, it starts with V. [10:03] V for Vendetta? [10:04] V for Vendetta, yeah, yeah, yeah. [10:06] Is that right? [10:07] Yeah, it is. [10:10] And in that, they say, [10:11] remember, remember the 5th of November. [10:15] Yeah, so there you go. [10:17] That's a good reference there. [10:19] Should've known that one. [10:21] Dammit. [10:22] Should've known that one. [10:23] I saw a movie once. [10:25] Should've known stuff. [10:28] All right, well shout out to Boxer Day. [10:31] Really, I'm still confused why it's so revered, though. [10:34] Basically, we're just. [10:37] Well, that's the niceness of. [10:38] It's a people's holiday, right? [10:40] Okay, so instead of. [10:42] It's like Labor Day for us, I guess. [10:44] Okay, okay, it's essentially Labor Day. [10:47] We make the servants work on Christmas [10:50] and we'll give them the day off after. [10:52] But then now everybody in the Commonwealth [10:54] gets the day off after, not just. [10:57] Totally. [10:58] Not just the servants. [11:00] Because the people work hard, man. [11:02] All right. [11:03] They deserve a day off.