Episode 54 · August 15, 2020
#Blessed
The hosts figure out where "bread and butter pickles" gets its name and whether kosher pickles have to be kosher.
“Suddenly, I'm Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with bread and butter pickles?” (00:32)
Questions
Why are they called "bread and butter pickles"? (00:32)
Our guess
A basic, everyday staple pickle (your "bread and butter"), probably a cheap, sweeter Depression-era sandwich pickle.
A basic, everyday staple pickle (your "bread and butter"), probably a cheap, sweeter Depression-era sandwich pickle.
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The answer
The name comes from Omar and Cora Fanning, Illinois cucumber farmers who sold sweet and sour pickles in the 1920s and trademarked "Fanning's Bread and Butter Pickle" in 1923. They were a cheap staple during the Depression.
The name comes from Omar and Cora Fanning, Illinois cucumber farmers who sold sweet and sour pickles in the 1920s and trademarked "Fanning's Bread and Butter Pickle" in 1923. They were a cheap staple during the Depression.
Verdict right
What makes a "kosher" pickle kosher? (03:51)
Our guess
That it has been blessed by a rabbi or prepared in a kosher kitchen.
That it has been blessed by a rabbi or prepared in a kosher kitchen.
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The answer
A kosher dill pickle is not necessarily kosher in the dietary-law sense; the term refers to the traditional style of Jewish New York City pickle makers, using garlic and dill.
A kosher dill pickle is not necessarily kosher in the dietary-law sense; the term refers to the traditional style of Jewish New York City pickle makers, using garlic and dill.
Verdict partly
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] Oh, we doing under Googles. That was the play of super excited told us we had to. We signed [00:15] up for it. In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you. So [00:24] this happened this summer, I came across this term and I didn't know what to do with [00:27] it. And instead of looking it up, I just waited months on end to talk to you guys about it. [00:32] Bread and butter pickles. What's what's the deal with what's what's that about? Oh, that's like the [00:42] name of a type of pickle, right? Yeah, suddenly, I'm Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with bread [00:48] and butter pickles? Bread and butter. Have you ever heard of a bread and butter pickle? Sure. [00:53] I've heard of it. Yeah. Why is it different than a pickle? Like a dill pickle makes sense to me, [01:01] right? You just put dill in the vinegar, so it tastes dilly. Mm hmm. You got your gherkin [01:08] pickle. You put some gherkin there. You got your kosher pickle, which is killed by a Jewish [01:18] rabbi. I don't know. Well, the dilly bar is also soaked in dill, right? Sure. But I don't know. So do [01:30] we assume the bread and butter pickle is soaked in bread and butter and vinegar? I don't assume [01:38] that. It's your classic sandwich pickle. I think when you get like, you get a burger with pickles [01:47] on it, sliced pickles, it's usually a bread and butter pickle, I think. I think they're [01:52] a little bit sweeter than your dills. Okay, so it's not dill, it's more sweet. And it's set up, [02:01] it's named after the process of it being with bread and butter on the sandwich. Or it's like, [02:10] this is just your standard pickle. So it's like your bread and butter. You know what I'm talking [02:15] about? Your bread and butter play. It's your bread and butter pickle. See, I didn't even think [02:19] about that. That's pretty smart. That's what I was going with that one. This is your basic [02:24] everyday pickle. Yep. So I assume it's vinegar and sugar, right? That's what they put in there [02:33] to make it. Well, they brine them, right? So it's like a bunch of salt. It's like salt water and [02:38] dinner, right? And then, but if they make it a little bit sweeter, a little bit sweeter. Yeah. [02:43] And that'd be your just everyday bread and butter pickle. That's my guess. That's a really good [02:51] guess. I didn't even occur to me. That's why I come to you guys. You're smarter than I am. [02:57] I mean, I can't think of an alternative. Can you, Joey? Like it would be [03:00] something that goes with bread and butter. Like maybe back in the 20s, [03:05] depression era, that was like the only thing you could afford was bread and butter [03:10] and cucumbers to pickle yourself. Yeah. I'm going to get one of those pickle sandwiches. [03:19] No, that's the pickle sandwich where you just, you make the pickles, the bread and the butter [03:24] and the pickle. And it's just like a stack of pickles is your bread and butter pickle sandwich. [03:29] That just sounds like a pickle. But it's sliced pickles all added up to a pickle sandwich. [03:36] So a pickle and a knife gets you a pickle sandwich. A pickle pickle sandwich. [03:42] Yeah. We're really in a pickle right now. [03:48] Yeah. Jason, I'm with you. I think it was the, [03:51] bread and butter is like your standard. It should go too. [03:54] Okay. Oh, also as a side note, before we look it up, what makes a kosher pickle kosher? Because [04:01] I was kind of teasing with that. Why is a normal pickle not kosher? [04:08] Well, I think kosher is, it's blessed by a rabbi at some point. [04:12] Okay. But why does it need to be right? [04:16] Because if you're keeping kosher, that's all of your food needs to be kosher. [04:21] Okay. So you're just blessing it because it's in a kosher kitchen. [04:26] Mm-hmm. [04:27] But I mean, with that, I guess there's other foods. I mean, there's not kosher cookies. [04:35] I mean, there are, I'm sure. Sure, there are. [04:38] But they're not called kosher cookies, right? [04:41] Yeah, but you wouldn't have them in a deli where there's also needs. [04:43] I mean, that's not like a style of cookie, but you could get kosher chocolate chip cookies [04:49] or something like that, right? Yeah. But does it need to be kosher [04:54] because it's also in a deli with meat, kosher is about the humane killing of animals and [05:03] sanitary blood processes and stuff, right? [05:07] Yeah. [05:07] I just assumed it was meat. So why do non-meat things need to be that? [05:11] Because they're in the same building. [05:15] Yeah. Or yeah, you don't want to cross-contaminate kosher and non-kosher things. [05:20] Right. Got it. All right. [05:22] So that answers that. All right. Now, let's bread and butter pickle. [05:26] Say in it, they have the perfect balance between sweet and tangy. [05:33] So I think, yeah, they're the name during the direct depression because they're cheap, [05:37] a cheap staple in households. [05:40] Well, there you go. Yeah. [05:42] People use them in sandwiches of bread and butter. [05:46] Because that's all they could afford. [05:48] I know. So we were right on it. [05:50] You guys killed it. [05:52] I wonder if they even have the internet. [05:55] Yeah, exactly. [05:58] The origin of the name and the spread of their popularity in the United States is attributed to [06:02] Omar and Cora Fanning, a pair of Illinois cucumber farmers who started selling sweet and [06:08] sour pickles in the 1920s and filed for the trademark Fanning's bread and butter pickle. [06:14] Oh, so they even got it named. It's not just... [06:21] Well, but maybe people were using the... [06:24] So they got the trademark in 1923, though the recipe and similar ones are probably much older. [06:30] That's what Wikipedia says. So it was probably like in the parlance of the day, [06:37] but then they just decided to finally capitalize on it. [06:43] Nice. [06:44] Pretty much nailed it. [06:46] Okay. The kosher dill pickle is not necessarily kosher in the sense [06:50] that has been prepared in accordance with Jewish dietary law, [06:54] rather it is a pickle made in the traditional manner of the Jewish New York City pickle makers [07:00] with the addition of garlic and dill. [07:05] Okay. So there you go. [07:07] So kosher pickles may not be kosher. [07:10] Well, no, I don't think that's what they're saying. [07:11] If they make them in the traditional style, they are kosher, right? [07:19] Well, as long as they're blessed, I guess. [07:20] Sure. [07:25] As long as they're hashtag blessed. [07:30] Well, we learned a bunch of stuff about pickles. Nice work. [07:33] Yeah. You probably didn't know this, but there was a period of time. I'm not sure why I did this, [07:41] but on Instagram, I basically just posted pictures of pickles. [07:46] You're good. [07:46] I was into pickles. Yeah, I was... [07:49] Were you eating a lot of pickles at the time? [07:50] Oh, yeah. [07:51] Or were you just like, okay. [07:53] Yeah, we were... You could pickle a lot of things, you know. [07:56] So we were eating a lot of pickles. We were pickle connoisseurs, you would say. [08:01] I mean, you could pickle anything, really. [08:03] Yeah, pretty much. Eggs. [08:05] Yeah. [08:06] Sour, yeah, sauerkraut. [08:08] Sure. [08:10] So were you taking pictures of your own pickled items, [08:13] or was this like you go into the grocery store and just taking pictures of jars of pickles? [08:17] No, no. It was stuff at all with all our stuff. [08:20] Okay. [08:20] We would get some good pickles. [08:23] But then I get comments about... [08:24] If I posted something else, they'd say, where are the pickles? [08:28] Were there a lot of comments on the size of your pickle? [08:32] Okay. [08:34] That means it was probably... [08:35] Next question. [08:36] That means it was probably average size pickle, right? [08:40] Time for a break. [08:44] It's boys' night, right, Coalson? [08:45] Boys' night. [08:47] Boys' night!