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Episode 43 · May 30, 2020

Zeal or Dazzle

The hosts ask why zebras have stripes and learn that science still hasn't settled it.

“Maybe a clusterfuck of zebras.” (03:18)

Questions

Why do zebras have stripes? (00:34)

Our guess
Heat regulation, or confusing predators when the herd runs together.
Reveal the answer
The answer
Unsettled. A newer UCLA study suggests the black stripes help zebras stay cool in the midday heat, while the long-standing consensus is camouflage or confusing predators, with little direct evidence. A group of zebras is called a zeal or a dazzle.
Verdict partly

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Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] We do under Googles. That was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:14] We signed up for it
[00:18] In the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you all right
[00:23] The question is where did Coalson put his under Google?
[00:34] What does it happen its pockets
[00:40] These are this is one of the ones that
[00:42] You know I think about all the time, and I think
[00:45] My really smart friends probably know and I maybe should be too embarrassed to ask it, but instead of googling
[00:52] And I'm gonna ask you guys
[00:55] Why does zebras have stripes
[00:59] Hmm cuz that's the way God made them yeah next question
[01:05] I
[01:06] Know I mean I feel like so so my theory is
[01:12] that
[01:13] It's this sort of like
[01:16] cooling system
[01:18] Right okay, so like the black absorbs the heat and the white reflects the Sun
[01:25] And it's like this absorbing reflecting
[01:30] Some kind of biological coil system that yes, yes
[01:34] And so and so that it's really effective
[01:38] For the heat of the zebra that's my theory, so you think in the summertime it like sells
[01:44] It sells the energy back to the grid or something
[01:50] Yeah
[01:52] Yeah in those winters in the savannah
[01:55] Which is notoriously cold it can stay warm in the winter and then right cool, and so it's like heat pump
[02:02] Yeah, or like you know a hump on a camel's back. Just to just holds the
[02:07] Water water holds the water holds the heat
[02:12] Holds the cool
[02:14] Okay
[02:15] And releases it when necessary
[02:20] Okay, I'm gonna I feel like
[02:25] Probably not right
[02:27] Evolutionarily that's probably perfect. We should all probably be zebra striped. Yeah, I think that so
[02:33] Zebras are already mammals, so they have pretty good heat regulation. I think okay in distribution their
[02:41] Homeothermic and
[02:43] So my understanding always from when I was a kid
[02:47] So I've never done any further reading on this was that it was a it was a defense mechanism
[02:53] so that when the zebras ran as a herd the stripes would like
[03:00] Basically make it hard to pick a single zebra out of the pack and
[03:05] Thus making it harder for lions or whatever predators to hunt them
[03:11] That's what I that's where I that's where I fall so like it's big. It's like visually
[03:18] disturbing
[03:19] When a pack of zebras or what's a what's a group of zebras called? That's a good question
[03:25] I don't know what the collective term is, but I'm sure it's awesome. I
[03:29] Want to hear what you think it is cuz you're full of ideas. I think it's a murder of zebras
[03:34] I think it's a murder of zebras. Okay. Yeah, yeah, don't exactly know
[03:38] I did spend a long time on the Wikipedia page for collective nouns or a
[03:43] maybe a
[03:45] clusterfuck of zebras
[03:47] Is that I?
[03:50] Think that's a scientific definitely got my vote
[03:54] But no, I like that idea so it's just like the
[03:59] The line can't see there's just too many lines
[04:01] It's just like a full-blown hypnosis like the spinning wheel and you're the card. Yes. Yeah, I like that. Yeah
[04:09] Makes them dizzy. I
[04:12] Still haven't gotten over the weird
[04:14] Why rabbits have white tails thing which is apparently has something to do with the chase and stuff on the end
[04:21] We're pretty some to Google. So I'll stick with some sort of
[04:25] biological camouflage
[04:29] I won't rule out that it has alternate
[04:32] alternative uses though such as
[04:34] weird heat exchange
[04:37] What about what about like the peacock thing? Like it's just showing off to its
[04:42] You know mate mate with the least colorful colors it could come up with. Yeah
[04:50] Well, they're they're very boring species
[04:54] So it's so you're actually trying to be more boring it's yes, yes
[04:59] Sure nerds are really valued in a zebra cluster. Fuck. That's right
[05:06] You're going for a sort of like the you know state the homebody sort of you know stay at home
[05:13] You know do the crossword puzzle read a book type. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be out at the club
[05:19] right now
[05:21] right zebra move I
[05:23] wonder if the stripes on a
[05:26] Zebra are in any way related to say the spots on a
[05:30] Cow or something like that. Okay, and what is have a similar cow thing like it? Well, you can imagine that cows and herds
[05:38] Like I see you got your standard dairy cow, right has the splotches and stuff
[05:43] then maybe in a herd
[05:46] Those similarly act as camouflage, but it's more of like a psychedelic like they they came around in the 60s or something
[05:53] So the cows came around the 60s. Yeah, whereas the zebras are much more old school. It's more like straight up and down
[06:00] Okay, it's sort of a design thing. Yes. Yeah. Yeah
[06:05] So the you think that the zebras are like some sort of pre postmodern stuff, right? Exactly
[06:13] Potential okay, what about skin disease? I'm against it
[06:23] What what about it? I don't know. I'm just throwing out ideas
[06:32] Wait, what how does that relate to the stripe? Do you think it's like it helps you not get skin disease or something?
[06:37] Well, no, I was thinking like maybe they're all just really black horses with skin disease. Oh
[06:41] You think it may be skin disease? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna vote against that one. Okay
[06:48] I don't think the entire species has skin disease or you unless you think
[06:53] Genetic thing, you know, like it's just cast down
[06:59] Mmm. Mmm update a group of zebras is has two alternative names. It's called a zeal. Ooh
[07:09] or a dazzle
[07:14] Yeah, I'd like zeal better but do you both are fantastic zebra zeal
[07:26] dazzles zebra
[07:27] Yeah, so do we have a
[07:33] an actual answer for the
[07:37] The purpose of the stripes, holy shit, I
[07:43] Think Coalson might be it's not really about heating and cooling is it? Oh my god
[07:51] Well a new study suggests that
[07:54] The black stripes may have evolved to help these iconic creatures stay cool
[07:58] in the midday African heat
[08:01] Wait, I I keep up on my new studies
[08:05] Mmm, wouldn't it be the opposite of that?
[08:10] I'm
[08:11] Curious as to why you know, if it's supposed to help with the heat why other species why everybody isn't like that
[08:19] Well, I I will say that that's not the best evidence that okay, that's why
[08:25] The correlation is not causation. We was the author on that
[08:29] Was it?
[08:32] It was UCLA and it was published in the Journal of Royal Society open science
[08:38] But that that that it seems like it's still in its infancy that particular
[08:44] Yeah, a lot of reasoning. I
[08:46] Don't like that. That's what Google recommends. Mm-hmm. I
[08:50] Guess it's the latest study though. Oh, it's the it's the latest and greatest so therefore it must be right, right
[08:58] well, it seems like the the
[09:02] Dogma or the consensus in the field is that
[09:05] It's a camouflage sort of kind
[09:12] Yeah, but they there's no real evidence for that. It's sort of just a guess
[09:17] It is not settled science, but we do know that a group of zero zebras is a dazzle
[09:23] that dazzle me once
[09:26] shame on you
[09:28] You guys want to talk about the other under Google that was sent in to us this week
[09:36] No, I'm sure you could ask those one more. This one came in from Andrew Preston
[09:44] listener of the show
[09:46] This is your podcast intro is comprised of a variety of different audio collections
[09:51] Some seemingly from the show others from historic radio calls Roy Hibert, etc. I
[09:58] Think I noticed a new clip or two attitude as well
[10:00] I think can you guys name or remember where all the different clips are from?
[10:06] Why or how did you come up with these clips as your intro Coalson? I think this is your your territory with
[10:13] You are the the jingle master
[10:16] Sure. So the idea was to
[10:22] Create a an opening jingle that was about that was preparatory. I suppose
[10:29] So I think there's a loop of you saying
[10:34] What do you say?
[10:37] This is a great question
[10:44] Just
[10:46] Just prepare for yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah
[10:50] and so
[10:52] The clips that we used. Yes, we use the Roy Hibert clip in the the playoffs where he's like you guys don't listen to us
[10:58] anyway
[10:59] Any curses which I thought was hysterical
[11:02] and
[11:04] But that was sort of felt true for our podcast as well
[11:08] And and then boom baby because that's classic
[11:12] And then the rest of it was I've got Jason doing one of my favorite things that's ever happened on the pie
[11:19] Which is the Evan Turner impression?
[11:22] And it's
[11:24] Yeah, be me. Well, yeah meatwad slash Evan Turner and it's get his shoes on
[11:29] And he's getting ready for a show. I like that
[11:32] And I think Harper says it's gonna be great. It's gonna be perfect, which is just you know, just a nice moment and then
[11:39] and then
[11:42] The end of the show we had
[11:44] Previously a whole bit which was one of my favorite bits we ever did and we talked about Roy Hibert having an inflatable bed
[11:51] on the road and it turned into a big bit about
[11:55] Bouncy castles and all this stuff and then
[12:00] about how we would inflate a bouncy castle every time Ray Hibert went into a hotel room and
[12:06] And the bit was who doesn't love bouncy castles and and Joey says Hitler
[12:11] Which is great because that's who hates who's evil and hates everything
[12:16] But what I realized is that the whole show ended on Joey saying Hitler
[12:20] And so the whole week the whole jingle and hear me talk every week
[12:25] Yeah, and so I went back and added some more preparatory things
[12:31] Another favorite line which was from an under Google or under Google Bowl Harper
[12:38] Saying that you couldn't jump through Neptune and be okay, which I think it's just it's probably the most true thing
[12:45] That's ever been set on the pod. So I felt like that needed to be added in
[12:50] And then and then a bit where Jason and I were were planning for a
[12:57] The rainbow connection and I started talking about
[13:00] bears and chickens and stuff and
[13:03] That felt also preparatory
[13:05] So the whole idea is that I took clips from the show that were funny
[13:09] But also sort of leading towards something and building towards something
[13:14] while Joey's saying is
[13:16] just prepare for
[13:18] Undebeatable goodness, and that's how it ends and then with the drum and we and then shout out to
[13:25] Scoot dubs who allowed us to use that
[13:31] Jingle
[13:32] the background and
[13:34] Just yeah, I appreciate the Andrew Preston appreciate you asking
[13:38] But yeah, the whole idea was to to prep you for the insanity that's coming