Episode 32 · March 14, 2020
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Ahead of St. Patrick's Day, the hosts ask who St. Patrick really was and how the holiday became an American drinking day.
“The internet needs more saints.” (03:15)
Questions
Who was St. Patrick, and how did St. Patrick's Day come about? (01:02)
Our guess
A real fifth-century figure, patron saint of Ireland, who drove out the snakes; the American drinking holiday was brought over by Irish immigrants.
A real fifth-century figure, patron saint of Ireland, who drove out the snakes; the American drinking holiday was brought over by Irish immigrants.
Reveal the answer
The answer
St. Patrick was a real fifth-century missionary and is the patron saint of Ireland, with a feast on March 17. He is said to have used the shamrock to explain the Trinity. The snakes legend is a myth, since there were never snakes in Ireland. Why Americans celebrate so heavily is unclear, though the Irish diaspora is the likely driver.
St. Patrick was a real fifth-century missionary and is the patron saint of Ireland, with a feast on March 17. He is said to have used the shamrock to explain the Trinity. The snakes legend is a myth, since there were never snakes in Ireland. Why Americans celebrate so heavily is unclear, though the Irish diaspora is the likely driver.
Verdict partly
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] Oh, you know I was checking our stats the other day [00:02] I'm pretty sure we drove away our Swedish audience with our with our Sweden under Googleable. Oh, no [00:10] Perfect. So who's our next who's our next highest overseas? It's like Belgium or something. All right, let's do it about Belgium [00:18] You're on notice. What do we know about Belgium? [00:21] Waffles, I don't want to do that [00:24] John I think you should probably get out of here [00:26] I'm gonna have to leave. Yeah, I've got to go to the theater [00:32] Have fun guys have a good show [00:48] I'm super excited [00:57] In the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you [01:02] Move on to the under Googleables, which is actually Coalson's this is his segment, but [01:09] We'll try to figure something out [01:11] Jason did you have one that you wanted to ask this week? I got one. Let's let's toss around so tomorrow [01:19] after this pod comes out is [01:22] You know a holiday that is sacred to my [01:26] heritage [01:27] St. Patrick's Day [01:30] What's the deal with st. Patrick's Day? Where is it was st. Patrick a real dude? [01:36] What what was he sainted for? [01:40] And [01:42] How did the the holiday come about what is it? I know it's not just for Americans to get drunk [01:49] On a day in March. No, it's also for Irish people to get drunk [01:53] Okay [01:57] So real st. Right? Yeah, okay [02:03] You grew up in the Catholic Church, yeah [02:06] Yeah, I've seen so different [02:08] Yeah, definitely. It's in then I guess we need to figure out what he's the patron saint of my guess is beer, but I'm I [02:16] Think not. I think all the beer stuff is not related to him very much at all. Oh, okay [02:23] Is there a patron saint of beer? [02:26] There might be there. Maybe maybe it is him, but yeah, I need to get a false idol [02:32] Like if you insane of the internet [02:35] What oh for sure? Yeah, and I think if you want to sell your house [02:39] I think you bury a statue of Mary upside down in your yard [02:45] Really? Yes [02:47] But that's only if you're selling [02:53] If you want to buy that house, yeah, what do you do? [02:58] You have to find a hair upgrade. Yeah, it's [03:02] Turn the right side. It's a treasure. It's a treasure hunt [03:07] I think patron saint of the internet is widely considered to be Saint Isidore of Seville a [03:15] Bishop and scholar who was nominated for the role by the late Pope John Paul the second [03:20] Although the Vatican has yet to make it official. That was in 2011 hop on it Vatican [03:27] The internet needs more saints. I've been I've been to the internet [03:34] If I remember correctly st. Patrick, I believe drove the snakes out of Ireland is that right? Oh [03:40] That sounds familiar. Yeah, there were some snakes that did not need to be there [03:45] So you must have driven them into the sea. I don't know where else you go [03:50] Or was it like what was that Simpsons episode clubbing day? Oh [03:56] Where's a whacking day? Whack whacking day? Hey, yeah, you go whack the snakes. Yeah, there was a song with it, too [04:05] Yeah, according to Wikipedia [04:08] Isidore of Seville is the patron saint of the internet computer users computer technicians jelly and programmers and [04:16] students [04:18] In general student I'd better get a yeah [04:23] Okay, so st. Patrick is kicking it in Dublin probably and there was a snake issue and he [04:32] Got them out. So he's the patron saint of exterminators, right? Okay. Okay. Okay. I like that [04:41] and then how did his [04:45] Name for his [04:49] Title become this [04:51] American drinking holiday [04:53] Like where does that come from? Is it is it mostly American? I think that it's mostly American. It's okay. It's my [05:02] Record election like I think if they don't care about st. Patrick's Day and in [05:08] Really, but it was brought here by the Irish [05:12] Potentially. Yeah, it was maybe brought here by the Internet [05:19] Could be could be what did you were you in st. Patrick? I'm sorry [05:24] Were you in Dublin for st. Patrick's Day? Do I miss remember that? [05:28] You're a misremembering that okay, I was [05:31] Yeah, it was like August when I was okay. Okay, so he must have had something to do with like Irish nation-building, right? Like [05:40] Hmm. I don't know [05:45] By you know [05:47] Driving snakes out so that they could build on the land or something right and then [05:54] grow potatoes [05:58] sure sure [06:00] I'm at a bit of a loss here [06:03] Because the thing is in the church [06:05] They didn't talk about going out and getting trashed, you know in the middle of the day in March [06:10] That is that is never came up. I don't really feel like it's a religious holiday [06:15] It was it [06:17] So it's not at all. There's a feast of st. Patrick, which is on the 17th of March, right? [06:23] He is the patron saint of Ireland [06:26] So that's good [06:29] It is a public holiday in Ireland [06:33] As well as Northern Ireland the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador [06:38] and the British Overseas Territory of Montserrat [06:45] He is 5th century approximately, but no real solid dates of his life [06:52] If you're a conspirator if you have a conspiratorial bent, there's a two Patrick's theory [06:58] Which is awesome. You know I am [07:02] Is there any explanation as to how this 5th century Saints got all these Americans drunk in the 2000s [07:11] Not yet, but the shamrock [07:16] Which is associated with st. Patrick's Day and Irish people in general [07:22] Is used heavily because st. Patrick has said to have used the shamrock [07:26] to explain the Holy Trinity [07:29] Right to the pagan Irish [07:31] So he brought Christianity to Ireland. That's part of his gig. Why we sell it Wow [07:38] And boy, did he do a good job [07:41] Yeah, and the colored green has been associated with Ireland [07:47] Since at least the 1640s when the green heart flag was used by the Irish Catholic Confederation [07:53] Ooh, according to Wikipedia st. Patrick's Day is celebrated in more countries than any other national festival [08:00] really [08:03] So yeah, I don't know just American [08:05] Right now and we didn't find anything about Saints or snakes. Sorry [08:15] Hmm [08:16] Well, so you need two miracles to be [08:23] Batified right to become a saint [08:26] Yeah, that's true. I think it's two. Oh nice [08:31] found a National Geographic article [08:35] asking if [08:37] St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland [08:39] And it's a legend [08:42] They never were on the island ever [08:44] How would they get there? [08:48] Swin [08:49] Thanks, that's when yeah, they guess they want to go that maybe not maybe not across the ocean. Yeah, see [08:56] But it looks like they were never there and in the first place, but he still [09:01] He gets credit for that so good on you. So weirdly in the United States. It's not a [09:09] Federal holiday obviously, but it is a legal holiday in Suffolk County [09:14] Massachusetts, which I'm assuming is where Boston is and [09:18] Savannah, Georgia [09:20] And in [09:23] 2016 [09:25] Consumers in the United States spent four point four billion dollars [09:30] on st. Patrick's Day [09:32] But that's down from four point eight billion spent in 2014 Jesus. What was going on in 2014? [09:41] People really needed a drink [09:43] Yeah, apparently not Irish probably Scottish, huh? [09:52] What is going on? [09:54] There's some discussion that the snakes were actually metaphorical snakes, which they could be [10:00] pagans would be the snakes or [10:02] Or the devil could also be a snake [10:05] so pagans [10:07] Yeah, hmm [10:09] Okay, definitely pagans [10:12] All right, so so okay, so [10:15] Yeah [10:17] So we know nothing basically is what we're learning. Yeah, but neither do historians. So right exactly [10:23] Yeah, well, that's I meant I meant the royal we [10:27] Society I just went on to google away, right? Yeah, we obviously know nothing [10:33] But so we confirm that st. Patrick is it was it an actual person a historical figure [10:41] who [10:43] brought Catholicism to [10:46] Ireland and there is a feast of st. Patrick's on March 17th that so that explains the date but then why [10:55] Americans and other countries celebrated so much is sort of unknown of the large Irish diaspora [11:02] Okay. Yeah, and maybe it's an extension of [11:07] You know [11:10] Vernal celebration or something like that. I mean it falls basically at the beginning of spring. So people have been cooped up for [11:18] You know three to six months [11:22] With winter and they're just ready to [11:25] To get out sure. Well Irish were also widely discriminated against when they came [11:31] Especially to America, right? So I suspect that those sorts of [11:36] Celebrations of heritage were very important internally to the community. Sure. Sure [11:43] All right, so so take those [11:48] Facts with you to your [11:51] Pub tomorrow and while your friends [11:55] And say, you know what? We don't know why we're drinking today, but it's important that we do [12:01] Also, his real name is believed to be may win suck it [12:06] What? [12:08] How do you spell his last name? [12:10] S-u-c-c-a-t [12:12] It's probably sukkot [12:14] Sukkot, however, I say suck it and what is the first name may win may win? [12:21] M-a-e-w-y-n. Well, I don't I know any anybody named me with [12:27] So so somebody could say you may suck it [12:36] It's a possibility [12:43] All right [12:47] Yeah, we should probably get moving you think