Hair-Suit Challenged

[00:00] Let's take a break here. Let's do it soon under Google book question. I love these Coalson's gone
[00:07] We're gonna do one in his team. I think honestly you probably won't hear this. They're a little bit better when he's not around
[00:16] Yeah, Coalson never listens to the pod so
[00:20] It's like we're in a skiff right now no one will ever know
[00:24] Jason what do you got for us this week? Well, so yeah, this is America's favorite game
[00:29] We take a topic
[00:31] That maybe you would Google
[00:33] We use our collective minds to try to come up with that answer
[00:38] So it's so it's more fun and and more accurate than what Google can give you I think I
[00:45] Was a little bit upset because I was undercut
[00:49] by
[00:50] the president
[00:52] Who clearly listens to the show?
[00:53] Cuz what we do one of the popular things that we do on the in the under Google's just figure out the origins of phrases, right?
[01:00] and
[01:01] So I weirdly was walking around thinking prime the pump. What is prime the pump?
[01:06] Where did that come from and I found out this week that Trump came up with it. So yeah
[01:11] Yeah, so that's a good googled
[01:14] under Google so then I had to come up with another one and I was at PT on Friday and
[01:20] And
[01:22] The guy next to me was a cop so we were just chit-chat and or whatever and
[01:26] Somebody there had never heard the term
[01:29] fuzz as a as a moniker for the police and
[01:34] So I thought that would be a good one because I don't know why
[01:38] They are called the fuzz. Where does that come from? Where are the police the fuzz and
[01:44] Side question why why are cops called pigs? I?
[01:50] Mean the pig thing seems much more clearly derogatory. So I kind of understand where that comes from but right
[01:57] But fuzz I don't know. So any thoughts on that
[02:01] So just off the top of my head. I would say that
[02:05] If things are going side if you got beef you got static, right?
[02:08] Hmm
[02:10] Okay, so and I don't know maybe all of this grows out of people like monitoring the police channel, right?
[02:17] Okay, I don't really know right but it feels like fuzz should have grown grown out of the static thing, right?
[02:24] Cuz I think static might have been I don't know or the other way around maybe so that that opens up a whole new can
[02:32] Where to static why does static mean beef
[02:36] Because that would have to be post
[02:39] Radio, right because we don't know what static is until there is radio, right? Right sure. Yeah, exactly
[02:45] So I'm gonna go with yeah police scanner something or other, you know people people are actually listening for the cops
[02:52] You know once they're able to discern a channel. Yeah, that's what I was thinking to it had to do probably with police radios
[02:59] Or something like that. Yeah
[03:01] When they showed up on the scene you get it you did maybe they don't
[03:06] another avenue we go down is
[03:08] You know if you got some young police officers, they don't have as a strong a beard game
[03:15] Little piece of the older folks do yeah
[03:19] so maybe that comes from like the
[03:22] You know in in New York City the the Irish
[03:25] Became cops there. It's like their their avenue into the middle class was to become police officers
[03:30] And you know not I mean, I'm a lucky Irishman. I can grow a robust beard, but some of us are more fair-skinned and
[03:38] More more hair suit challenged, right?
[03:43] Here's your challenge
[03:48] Maybe maybe they used to have like really fuzzy uniforms. Maybe that was a thing back in the day. Oh, yeah, maybe
[03:56] Yeah, I don't know what I don't know that I don't know the materials very well
[04:01] My sewing game is not that strong. I don't know. Yeah, it's a blue some to be desired
[04:07] I
[04:11] Like so many other names for the police such as cops and the fuzz
[04:16] I was looking at pigs
[04:18] Has a particularly well-known origin
[04:22] Starting around the 16th century pig began being used in English as a derogatory term for people whether police or not as
[04:28] It is still used today
[04:31] The first document reference was an 1811
[04:35] The pigs frisk my this is that's perfect. Yeah pigs. Okay pigs frisk my panty and nailed my screws. I did
[04:44] Whoa, yeah, I think you're gonna have to bleep that
[04:53] Cop the noun is almost certainly a shortening of copper
[05:00] Which in turn derives from cop the verb
[05:02] According to the Guardian comm there's like a weird comment board, but so one
[05:13] Impossibilities that it's a mispronunciation of the force
[05:19] Another is that it was a 60s hippie expression in order to a hair or lack of it
[05:27] So Joey that's closer to your thing
[05:29] Several theories about the origin of fuzz American tramp and under word slang published in 1931
[05:38] So fuzz must have been around then which is essentially pre police radio, right?
[05:43] Suggests that fuzz was derived from fuss meaning that the cops were fussy over trifles
[05:50] Hmm. Okay and etymologist Eric Partridge wonders if fuzz might have come from the beards of early police officers
[05:58] This also seems improbable
[06:02] And then there's one they on this slang term maybe in reference to the sound of the field radios
[06:08] But it seems like there's no clear
[06:15] Consensus no this seems
[06:18] Again, I think this is one of those things that was in running around and slang for a while, right?
[06:24] Before anyone thought to write it down. I think we've hit on a few of these recently which are sort of counter cultural terms
[06:32] There's no trouble being codified. I mean by the time they get from the oral to the written histories their origins lost, right?
[06:41] So, um, here's a book we need to get the book
[06:47] American tramp and underworld slang published in 1931. Yeah
[06:54] I want that book
[06:58] This is an audible great coffee table reading. I don't know it would be a horrible audible book
[07:08] So we nailed it, yeah pretty much we got most of the things yeah, yeah