The Angel Sniper

[00:00] I got a quick negulable. Yeah, I think I know the answer, but maybe just to get our get it get the juices flowing sure
[00:09] Okay, so it snowed in in the district yesterday
[00:12] and you know when they do snow they always talk about how many inches of snow to
[00:19] You know expect or whatever
[00:22] Okay, and so that makes sense to me. I guess because you can go out and stick a ruler in the ground and see how many
[00:29] You know how far down the ruler goes, but then why do we measure rain in inches?
[00:36] Why is it a length and not a volume?
[00:38] So in the sense that they have like a cup outside, and they're like
[00:45] You know they're just catching all the rain, and they're like oh it rained this many inches
[00:50] Yeah, instead of saying you want to say we're into little dances
[00:54] Yeah, or something some
[00:56] Metric of volume per hour or something like that wouldn't that make more sense?
[01:01] Sure like it rained a pint today
[01:04] Yeah, yeah, I don't go into the bar and ask for you know five inches of beer
[01:09] We do under Google rules that was the play of super excited told us we had to
[01:24] We signed up for it in the end. It's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you so
[01:35] This week
[01:37] we celebrated Valentine's Day and
[01:40] I feel like our first year we hit up all the major holidays and try to figure out what the
[01:46] history of them was, but I don't believe that we
[01:50] Discussed Valentine's Day last year
[01:53] If we did I don't remember what the hell it's about
[01:56] So if we're redoing it I apologize, but I clearly didn't learn enough the first time so
[02:02] I would like all of us to speculate
[02:06] Where the holiday
[02:08] The history of the holiday st. Valentine's Day. Isn't it a Hallmark holiday?
[02:15] Well, it clearly comes from something else right I mean yes at this I mean there is a Saint Valentine
[02:20] Okay, do we know anything about itself at Saint Valentine?
[02:24] Love or not a fighter
[02:26] So, okay, somebody sainted mr. Valentine
[02:42] Have you met the Catholics
[02:44] There are great people saints. I know two and one of them's the Virgin Mary
[02:50] I know it's like current Teresa and st. Joan of Arc and that's it's a Joan of Arc. Yeah
[02:57] Yeah, and it took St. Joan of Arc until like last year to get
[03:01] Get her say that I mean how many times you got to die for Jesus before you get tainted, you know, right?
[03:15] Alright, so
[03:19] Valentine's Day where to come from
[03:21] We've already asked the question who st. Valentine was what he got saying it for I
[03:28] Just assumed this like all the other the the st. Patrick's Day. We decided was a pagan holiday, right?
[03:35] And then they just made it spit a saint on top of it. So I assume it's the same thing
[03:41] This is to get the lovers in the church
[03:44] No, it's some it's some pagan sex holiday that they had to clean up with a saint. That's exactly what happened
[03:51] So
[03:56] Rules for becoming a saint you have to do like two miracles or something. I
[04:01] Think it's three
[04:03] Three. Okay. Oh, yeah, Joey your doesn't it doesn't help if you die expect for the church. I
[04:11] Think that's that that yeah, I mean you get yeah, it doesn't hurt you gonna say not die for the church
[04:19] Yeah, sounds like some millennial stuff. Oh, I think I should be saying it, but I shouldn't have to die
[04:25] Shots fired shots fired
[04:30] At millennial Catholics hoping to be saints
[04:38] Year I'm circled all year wait
[04:45] All right, so let's say this okay
[04:48] What miracles did senior Valentine El Ombre Valentine
[04:56] Perform
[04:57] He definitely saved some women
[05:04] From some stuff just probably themselves if I know the Catholic Church, okay
[05:14] But it has to be like magical it has to be like a true miracle right has to be unexplainable by other means
[05:20] Right, but what did what did see Juna Vark? What did she do performing things?
[05:24] She was able to hold off like a whole army by herself or something like that. Was that the miracle?
[05:30] Sure, and then she sacrificed herself. I didn't think she had three miracles. I thought she just was
[05:35] Died for the church. Well, I think she talked to God or something and okay sure. Okay or something, you know
[05:42] It doesn't you know, I think she saw Jesus host, you know, the miracles can happen afterwards. Yes
[05:48] That's also like good point. Yeah, like if
[05:53] You know if
[05:55] You know, somebody was divinely inspired by yeah, same general. Yeah, I mean
[05:59] Or bite but you're saying Valentine came and gave a pep talk to the Pope at some point
[06:05] Yeah, okay. Yeah, so okay that you mentioned the Pope the Pope clearly at some point said
[06:10] This is a pagan holiday and I'm gonna take this
[06:15] Saint and I'm gonna make a saint and I'm gonna make him about this day, right? No, it's I'm still saying it's all
[06:29] There's a saint attached to it so at some point the Catholic Church got involved you're right. Yes, you're right
[06:35] Hallmark could never be that clever
[06:38] Okay
[06:40] so to clarify
[06:42] the requirements for sainthood are
[06:44] two verifiable post-mortem miracles a post-mortem to
[06:49] mmm and
[06:51] evidence of having led an exemplary life of goodness and
[06:56] virtue worthy of imitation
[06:58] Okay
[06:59] So I were having died a heroic death. Oh, what or having undergone a major conversion of heart?
[07:07] Where a previous immoral life is abandoned and replaced by one of outstanding holiness. So wait, all I have to do
[07:14] Is be a bigger jerk for a while and then change my mind and then I can be a saint
[07:20] Yes, dial it back. Just dial it back
[07:28] There's a threshold there's other you know, if you can't do it that way you may have to go another route
[07:36] Okay, so if if valentine's day is about
[07:40] You know bringing together the lovers this saint somehow mr. Valentine somehow
[07:48] Brought people together. I mean he's the patron saint of lovers, right? So, okay
[07:55] What is it what would that mean in the Catholic Church though
[07:58] he would marry he would he just married a bunch of people like he's not like getting people that I
[08:04] Don't know kind of like I'm like somebody in Vegas just to ensure he was basically the Elvis
[08:10] Here's the mechanic or am of the 1400s
[08:15] Maybe he yeah
[08:19] Connected it was like
[08:22] He connected long-lost lovers somehow
[08:27] through
[08:29] Valentine's Day card post-mortem do you think
[08:32] I just from beyond the grave
[08:42] So what's up the one thing I never understood was the the angel sniper
[09:01] That was st. Valentine may know that he could have been a war hero and just shot a bunch of people with an arrow
[09:07] No cute. I mean Cupid's like a legitimate like
[09:12] Greek
[09:14] Mythological figure, isn't he? Mmm. Okay. Sure. Is he connected to Aries the god of love?
[09:22] Here is the god of war. Okay
[09:28] Afro deity perhaps
[09:31] That sounds closer to love. Yes, although I think beauty
[09:38] I'm bad at the gods and goddesses
[09:42] Okay. Oh wait, so you've looked it up. Yeah. Oh, you're over this nonsense
[09:48] God of I'll start with Cupid Cupid is the god of desire erotic love attraction and affection
[09:54] He's often portrayed as the son of love goddess Venus and of the war god Mars. Ah
[09:59] I knew there was a connection. Yeah. No, I did not you're right his Greek counterpart is Eros. So
[10:07] Not Greek. Well, I get there was Greek, but he wasn't called Cupid. He was Roman. He was Roman. Yeah, okay
[10:15] Okay, so
[10:17] Coalson was pretty much right. It's been it was a pagan thing always is that then was the the Christian Church sort of
[10:25] It over
[10:28] overtook so
[10:30] The Romans just goes back to Roman time the Romans celebrated the feast of Lupercalia
[10:37] from February 13th to the 15th every year and
[10:43] On this holiday or in this celebration the feast
[10:47] Men sacrificed a goat and a dog and then
[10:51] Whipped women with the hides of the animals. They had just slain what the hell?
[10:57] Humans are so weird
[10:59] yes, and
[11:01] the
[11:02] This also included a matchmaking lottery
[11:05] Which young men a lot of names of women from a jar and then they would be coupled
[11:11] Quote-unquote during the the festival. So it's like a key party. Yeah, right
[11:16] It was the Roman keeper
[11:19] Sacrifices and whips
[11:21] And then the name
[11:24] Valentine comes from Emperor Claudius the second executed two dudes both named Valentine on February the 14th in
[11:32] third century AD and
[11:34] They were martyred and honored by the Catholic Church and then later Pope
[11:41] Galasius the first
[11:44] Combined st. Valentine's Day with Lupercalia
[11:48] To sort of get rid of the pagan rights that's on the wall. Okay, so
[11:56] folk traditions
[11:58] European folk traditions connected with St. Valentine and St. Valentine's Day
[12:03] Blah blah blah basically the UK started the custom of sending cards flowers chocolates and other gifts
[12:11] It doesn't give me a date for this though thinking
[12:19] Maybe we should the day of love celebrate like we used to
[12:23] on March 12th
[12:25] Or February 22nd
[12:35] I'm seeing that a
[12:39] Both Chaucer and Shakespeare romanticized Valentine's Day in the war. Yes
[12:45] and
[12:47] Handmade paper cards became the tokens du jour in the Middle Ages. Okay, there we go and
[12:53] Hallmark started making Valentine's cards in 1913. Do you guys know about white day?
[13:03] this
[13:04] every day
[13:09] It is not at all that apparently you are not it is
[13:16] It is
[13:18] Sort of a follow-up on Valentine's Day. So
[13:23] In Asia, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China. It's a month after Valentine's Day and
[13:33] So
[13:35] In those countries Valentine's Day is the women give
[13:40] presence to the men and
[13:43] On the white day the reverse happens the men give like chocolate or whatever to the ladies. So it's
[13:52] It's a newer holiday
[13:55] But it's sort of splits up, you know
[14:00] Valentine's Day to two separate holidays
[14:03] so okay
[14:06] For the record Wikipedia also agrees that many people can consider saying Valentine's Day a hallmark holiday
[14:13] Yeah, no, apparently this is so yeah, I get the Shakespeare. Here we go and the Chaucer
[14:19] they give some credit to those guys for popularizing it and
[14:25] More than 25% of all cards sent each year our Valentine Days cards
[14:33] Wow
[14:35] Over 1 billion cards a year
[14:37] That's crazy
[14:39] So there you go. It's big business as you suggested Harper. So again, we're right. We don't need the internet
[14:49] We got this all figured out
[14:52] Yeah nailed it
[14:55] You know we're talking to each other over the internet
[14:58] Hahahahaha
[15:08] Fantastic because everything else
[15:13] Need to get off your chest this week. I mean, I feel like we learned a bunch of stuff
[15:19] Truth true nothing if not educational
[15:23] The unbeatables is for the children, right?
[15:31] Nothing like pagan key parties for the children
[15:35] Well, you did nail it with the pagan sex party, yeah
[15:42] Leave it to Coalson. We've done enough of these now. I'm starting to get a rhythm like it's either Chaucer Shakespeare pagan sex party
[15:52] Like we got this it's it's and it what did you added?
[15:56] See fearing stuff. Yeah nautical stuff. Yeah, I
[16:00] think every
[16:02] Every idiom about cats is about the cat of nine tails now. Like I we've got it all figured out
[16:06] I'm scared. It all makes sense. People are really bad
[16:14] Like all I'm learning from that to Google's people are well, I think that we're about wrap stuff for this week. We'll have more
[16:23] basketball for you next week
[16:26] After the Pacers kind of get back to their regular schedule and and maybe more pagan days. I mean, maybe
[16:32] Yeah, yeah
[16:35] If Presidents Day is coming up we can talk about that
[16:40] Who knows with that
[16:49] Just throwing that out there right now, but your lawyers got to pay for it
[16:55] Sorry, I'm off topic
[16:58] I think we should get going. Yeah long past it. Yes. How did we make an hour show out of this crap?
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[17:54] Turn out the lights the party's over
[18:03] Is there a name for the the rain gauge the standardized rain gauge no, I don't know dreamcatcher. Oh
[18:20] Hold on though, so there is
[18:23] It's called a odometer
[18:25] mmm, odometer or a
[18:30] pluviometer or an
[18:34] Ombre
[18:35] ombreometer
[18:37] Pluviometer makes sense to me
[18:40] An odometer. I just used to measure my udon noodles, so I don't know where that came from
[18:45] You do a lot of measuring of your you have to measure your noodles, man