Episode 20 · December 21, 2019
Slutty Peasants
Prompted by a holiday movie, the hosts ask why people kiss under mistletoe and what the word itself means.
“Stop kissing under the poop branch. Nobody wants to see this.” (13:12)
Questions
Why do people kiss under mistletoe, and where does the word come from? (01:42)
Our guess
A northern European, probably English or Celtic, custom taken from pagans and attributed to peasants; not Germanic.
A northern European, probably English or Celtic, custom taken from pagans and attributed to peasants; not Germanic.
Reveal the answer
The answer
The kissing custom is English, where a berry was picked before each kiss. The romantic overtones are linked to Druids, the Greek festival of Saturnalia, and a Norse myth in which Loki killed Baldur with a mistletoe arrow. The word comes from German "mistel" (dung) and "tan" (twig), because the plant spreads through bird droppings.
The kissing custom is English, where a berry was picked before each kiss. The romantic overtones are linked to Druids, the Greek festival of Saturnalia, and a Norse myth in which Loki killed Baldur with a mistletoe arrow. The word comes from German "mistel" (dung) and "tan" (twig), because the plant spreads through bird droppings.
Verdict right
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] Yeah, exactly right. [00:01] I mean, you want to spend a lot more time looking in the mirror than out the window [00:04] during the regular season, right? [00:06] Sure. [00:10] I'm going to put that on a coffee mug. [00:13] Yeah. [00:16] Put that, put that, that's a cozy quote. [00:18] Keep that one down. [00:22] Okay. [00:24] Next up, Coalson, you got an un-Googleable for us? [00:28] I do. [00:36] Oh, we do want to un-Googleables? [00:38] That was the plan. [00:39] I'm super excited. [00:40] You told us we had to, sir. [00:44] You said we signed up for it. [00:48] In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you. [00:52] So it's a holiday season. [00:54] I was watching a holiday movie with the lady [00:59] while you were sleeping, the great Sandra Bullock, [01:02] uh, rom-com, uh, in fact, uh, shout out to, uh, falling in love with trip and brick. [01:09] They did a, they did a pot on this one. [01:12] So we'll link to that. [01:13] But, um, in that movie, uh, Sandra Bullock, uh, basically saves a guy [01:18] who's, uh, fallen unconscious, uh, unconscious, but she ends up falling in love [01:24] with the unconscious dude's brother. [01:26] And there's this really awkward moment where they're, the brother and she are [01:31] standing under the mistletoe, um, and the family is asking them to, to kiss, [01:36] which, you know, is kind of awkward in the sense that, um, her fiance in all [01:42] their minds is, uh, unconscious, but really it's okay. [01:46] Cause she's in love with the brother. [01:47] It works out. [01:50] I take all this to say I'm watching this going. [01:53] This is an incredibly weird thing, not only in that movie, but also in general [01:58] that we, that this mistletoe idea that we were under the mistletoe with somebody, [02:04] even if it's awkward to kiss them, we're expected to kiss them. [02:07] And I'm trying to figure out where this came from. [02:10] Um, why do we have the tradition of the mistletoe? [02:14] Hmm, I'm going to guess it's, uh, in the, in the long tradition of, uh, creepy [02:23] old white men, that's where it comes from. [02:25] Okay. [02:29] So old white dudes are like, this is going to be a great opportunity for me. [02:32] Yeah. [02:32] We're just going to have this thing. [02:34] Like, oh, you know, this, there's this weird plant and you know, if you go under it, [02:40] you have to kiss me. [02:41] That's the thing. [02:42] So it, it, it, it got its start on madmen. [02:45] Yeah, maybe advertising agencies in the seventies. [02:48] Exactly. [02:49] It's where the mistletoe. [02:50] Yeah. [02:52] Okay. [02:53] Or like Henry the eighth or something like that. [02:55] It seems like some, some creepy thing that he would do. [02:58] He just wanted to kiss as many young maidens as he could. [03:00] Yeah, that's the thing with Kings though. [03:03] I don't think they needed it. [03:04] Yeah. [03:04] They could just do the pre-monocta thing. [03:06] Right. [03:06] And yeah, exactly. [03:08] Like this feels, this feels more peasantied to me. [03:12] Okay. [03:13] So maybe, maybe like a shitty noble guy. [03:17] Yeah. [03:18] Well, so first I'm going to say European. [03:21] Okay. [03:22] Yeah. [03:22] Okay. [03:24] I'm going to say it must be Northern European. [03:28] Right. [03:28] Because mistletoe seems like some place that will grow some place relatively cold. [03:33] Sure. [03:34] Yeah. [03:34] I don't, I mean, I don't know. [03:35] No, I actually do know this about mistletoe is that it, [03:40] it actually grows in the winter. [03:42] And that's why it's a, that's why it's a garland for, for Christmas. [03:46] Because it, it actually, [03:48] so you need to have the winter to survive. [03:50] Yeah, exactly. [03:50] They need winter. [03:51] Yeah. [03:52] So I'm going to say it's, you know, like I said, this is a, you know, [03:58] slutty peasants, basically, can I, can I say that on the radio? [04:03] All right. [04:03] It's probably the title of the show now. [04:07] Merry Christmas, slutty peasants. [04:12] So we think it Anglo Saxon or more like Irish Scottish. [04:17] Oh, Irish Scottish. [04:18] Okay. [04:18] Well, so, okay. [04:22] I was thinking a couple things. [04:23] One, is this another situation where the Catholics steal it from the. [04:30] The pagans. [04:32] The Druins or whatever the pagans. [04:34] The other thing I was thinking is, is that Shakespeare come up with this for a story [04:39] plot and that's how I become something. [04:41] Because it's always either the pagans or the Shakespeare or falconry. [04:46] That could, maybe it's Christopher Wren this time. [04:49] Could be, could be. [04:52] I'm going to go with it. [04:53] I'm going to go with it's not Germanic because Germans never have any fun. [04:58] And this sounds too fun for that's a good point. [05:00] Yeah. [05:00] This is much too flirty and frivolous. [05:03] And yeah, joie de vivre. [05:05] Yeah, exactly. [05:06] It's not their thing. [05:08] So is it French? [05:11] It definitely could be French. [05:16] Mistletoe. [05:17] I don't know if that sounds, who knows? [05:19] Well, I mean, it may have a different name in French. [05:23] Okay. [05:24] Yeah. [05:26] All right. [05:26] So we're going with it's, uh, old school, cold European country and. [05:33] European middle ages. [05:35] Done by slutty peasants. [05:37] Slutty pests. [05:40] Check. [05:42] All right. [05:43] See what we can come up with. [05:45] All you gotta do is come to us team. [05:47] We always figure it out for you. [05:51] Okay. [05:54] Weirdly, mistletoe, uh, is a partial parasite or a Hemi parasite. [06:02] Parasitic branch. [06:07] The custom of kissing under mistletoe comes from England. [06:11] The original custom was that a berry was picked from the sprig of a mistletoe [06:15] before the person could be kissed. [06:17] And when all the berries had gone, there could be no more kissing. [06:21] So we were right. [06:23] It was English and probably buttoned by creepy white dudes. [06:27] Um, I've got here that the Greeks were known to use it, uh, as a cure, uh, mistletoe as [06:33] a cure for everything from menstrual cramps to spleen disorders and the natural spliny, [06:39] the elder used as a ball. [06:41] It always comes back to fly knee or Shakespeare. [06:45] Um, the romantic overtones most likely started with the, uh, druids of the first century. [06:51] Solid because mistletoe could blossom even during the frozen winter. [06:54] The druids came to view it as a sacred symbol of vivacity. [06:59] So I have a different, I have a, the kissing under the mistletoe is first [07:04] associated with the Greek festival of Saturnalia, uh, and later with primitive marriage rates. [07:11] Hmm. [07:14] Oh, okay. [07:15] So it's Scandinavian. [07:16] There's also a nor here's a Norse offshoot. [07:20] Um, Odin's son, Baldur was prophesied to die. [07:23] His mother frig, the goddess of love went to all the animals and plants, uh, to secure an [07:28] oath that they would not harm him, but frig neglected to consult with the unassuming mistletoe. [07:34] So Loki made an arrow from the plant. [07:36] With the mistletoe, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta talk to the missile stuff. [07:41] Can't overlook it in because it was a partial parasite. [07:44] That's why she, uh, the custom linked to mistletoe was reserved for new year's day. [07:49] Uh, but today kisses can be exchanged under the mistletoe any time during [07:53] the holiday season, according to the holiday spot.com sexual harassment.com. [08:02] Uh, your honor, I would like to enter into evidence. [08:10] Um, so are you talking about Loki? [08:13] I got excited. [08:13] I'm a Marvel nerd. [08:14] What happened with Loki and the mistletoe? [08:17] Uh, Loki made an arrow from the plant and used it to kill the otherwise invincible Baldur. [08:22] Who's the son of Odin. [08:24] Um, wow. [08:27] According to one son, your version of the myth, the gods were able to resurrect Baldur. [08:31] Uh, and frig then declared mistletoe, a symbol of love and vowed to plant a [08:36] kiss on all those who passed beneath it. [08:38] Okay. [08:39] All right. [08:40] That's amazing. [08:41] It's like every tradition has incorporated this missile to this stupid plant in the same way. [08:53] But so all those things come together, uh, for the slutty peasants, essentially. [09:00] So they edit. [09:01] So what is our default here? [09:02] We attribute it to the oldest version of this and assume that it just got [09:07] mutated into these different. [09:10] Well, so we got through it. [09:11] We got drinks and we got, um, Norse Greeks likely would predate the druids. [09:17] Okay. [09:21] They're man. [09:23] Gosh, you wouldn't think that there would be much [09:25] cultural exchange between the Druids and Greeks, wouldn't you? [09:30] It'd be a lot of murder. [09:31] Or the norse, right? [09:33] Or the norse. [09:34] Yeah. [09:34] Seem like very separate. [09:37] Historical entities. [09:38] That's, that's pretty crazy. [09:39] I mean, the good news is that we're, regardless of what we had answered, [09:42] we were pretty much going to be right. [09:46] Good. [09:46] Good for us. [09:46] It's my kind of under Google bowl. [09:48] Nice work. [09:49] I do it again. [09:50] One last question. [09:51] Can we get it? [09:52] Can we get a, uh, uh, an etymology for the actual term missile toe? [09:58] Do we know where that means poo on a stick? [10:01] What? [10:06] So I did go to, I don't, I'm a little [10:11] skeptical of the quality of the site, but why christmas.com [10:16] says that missile M I S T E L, which means dung and tan, which means twig or stick. [10:23] So you could translate missile toe as poo on a stick. [10:29] Yeah. [10:30] It's, it's from the German missile. [10:33] That's what I'm saying to you. [10:34] Okay. [10:35] Wow. [10:38] Super romantic. [10:39] Well, there's gotta be, does it, it probably grows in poop or something, right? [10:46] Well, it's, it grows on trees, which it is odd. [10:51] I guess a shrubbery. [10:52] We go, um, missiles. [10:53] So is spread through birds feces. [10:59] So cause the birds eat the berries and then poop. [11:02] It's possible that that's where it comes from it. [11:04] This is great. [11:06] So yeah, this means it means poop branch. [11:09] And that's what I've got here. [11:15] We've ruined christmas holidays. [11:17] Just know next time you have this wonderful romantic moment under the [11:21] missile toe, it's actually under a poop branch. [11:23] Yep. [11:24] Yep. [11:25] And reuse were derived from, you know, uh, the, uh, laurels that we placed on dead [11:31] people's heads after we murdered them. [11:32] Merry Christmas. [11:38] Oh, Europeans. [11:39] You're welcome. [11:39] Pacers fans. [11:43] If you are enjoying your christmas break with your family and you can share this [11:48] nugget with them over dinner tonight, it'll be great. [11:50] Sure. [11:51] We do. [11:52] Well, in the current climate, you shouldn't be using missile tone anyway. [11:55] Just don't do it. [11:56] It's not worth it. [11:57] It seems like maybe in, maybe in any climate, [12:02] we do want to thank you for listening, um, to the show. [12:06] We definitely appreciate the feedback and whatnot. 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[13:15] Stop kissing under the poop branch. [13:20] Nobody wants to see this.