Put That In Your Pope

[00:02] next up Coalson you know I gotta talk to my mom this day she was really happy our
[00:09] conversation about the llamas and the alpacas she was amused and she learned
[00:14] some things she learned some things that's if we're nothing if not
[00:18] educational mm-hmm well it's not really us it's you know the reference material
[00:22] we check is that is the after after we randomly talk yeah we do
[00:39] under the rules that was the play of super excited told us we had to do so we
[00:47] signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can
[00:53] give you so I've got a few this week I just want to do some the some short ones
[00:59] if that's all right sure the first one is where does the phrase humble pie come
[01:08] from I don't know so what is it when you're ashamed you eat humble pie
[01:18] yeah yeah that's the context you're talking of yeah I don't know yeah I have
[01:27] no idea Joey you got any thoughts on this while I'm in I think it's think about
[01:32] that and phrases like put that in your popence or put that in your pope put
[01:38] that in your pipe smoke it okay that's does it come from does come from
[01:46] falconry by any chance I learned it this week that a bunch of weird phrases come
[01:53] from falconry like hoodwinked is a falconry term really yeah yeah how's
[02:01] that way and and be having someone under your thumb is so the hoodwink thing is
[02:06] a the the falcon you know that you put a hood on the falcon so they can't see
[02:13] anything that you know sure if you are hoodwinked you can't see him fly sure
[02:17] yeah and and then under the under your thumb was you know when a when a
[02:24] falconer if that's the term has the the falcon on his hand he clamps down on
[02:31] its toes or talons I guess with the thumb and so the falcon can't fly away so
[02:37] he's got him under under yeah yeah makes a great song too they were like a
[02:42] few other ones it was crazy yeah but this didn't show up humble pie did not show
[02:47] humble humble pie didn't but I thought maybe they missed one cooking cookbook
[02:53] from the 1730s okay was cooked somebody who's too braggadocious mm-hmm I think
[03:03] you're right Joe I think this definitely is a an actual pie though I
[03:07] think this comes from I don't think it's euphemism I think you don't think so
[03:11] no I think so you think this is a carnivorous situation Joey that they they
[03:16] make a humble killed a braggadocious no no you make them eat a pie that's like not
[03:22] very good okay I see gotcha I I had a theory so I had a little bit longer to
[03:31] think about this I did not Google it but I've got my I think that this is a
[03:36] pie that that maybe is with leftover scraps of stuff so it's not like it's a
[03:45] humble pie right so like I'm not using the best ingredients I'm using leftover
[03:53] meat and leftover vegetables and stuff and poor people would make it and
[03:59] therefore it's a humble pie that was my idea yeah okay then and then and then I
[04:08] that translates to you you're forced to eat something that's humbling so it
[04:16] sort of bring you back down to earth right because you're not eating the
[04:19] good pie you're eating a humble pie mm-hmm so that's so it's like a peasants
[04:24] pie is my theory I like that theory but that seems a maybe a little bit too
[04:33] obvious I don't know so anybody else got anything when you google it humble pie
[04:41] or humble pie is a term for a variety of pastries based on medieval meat pies
[04:49] humble pie is a pie filled with the chopped or minced parts of a beasts pluck
[04:58] ie the heart the liver the lungs I see lights and kidneys that's especially of
[05:06] deer but often other meats and so I guess they it was called humble just UMLB
[05:16] UMB Ellie sorry watch evolved from numble which is after the French nomble
[05:23] meaning deer's innards oh okay so has nothing to do with humble at all it's
[05:29] basically about deer's innards pies yeah although umbles and the modern word
[05:35] humble are etymologically unrelated each word has appeared with and
[05:42] without the initial H since the H has dropped in many dialects the phrase was
[05:47] rebracketed as humble pie so you're saying that this is it has nothing to do
[05:53] with eating something that makes you humble it has to do with deer innards
[05:56] humble pie according to Wikipedia oh man isn't that wild but people eat humble
[06:05] pie when they're when they've been to braggadocious they do I think we just
[06:12] say that they need to eat some humble pie that is crazy see that's a good one
[06:19] we're learning stuff yeah and it's French for deer innards yeah nomble
[06:25] wait that did not go where I thought it was gonna go it's the magic of the
[06:33] game man all right maybe I just got one more for you then because that was so
[06:40] successful I don't want to screw it up with a bunch of bad ones so this pacer
[06:47] related I was thinking about this and didn't know the answer exactly and so
[06:55] I figured I'd throw it out to you I feel like we have I feel like the
[07:00] Pacers team gets the most improved player all the time I feel like that's
[07:05] one of the like we I don't we've never had an MVP we just but I feel like we
[07:09] get most improved player all the time mm-hmm can we name all the Pacer most
[07:14] improved players sure we can try I've got so Paul George yep mm-hmm and Danny
[07:26] Granger one I believe Danny Granger for sure I know Jalen Rose 1-1 mm-hmm did
[07:34] Jermaine O'Neill one he definitely did yeah he did yeah for sure sure well I
[07:41] wouldn't have thought of that but once you said it I remember for sure he did
[07:45] okay Jay would not have come to mind but he definitely did when he won it as
[07:49] a pacer yes yeah yeah cuz remember he was sitting on the win he got traded
[07:55] and suddenly he's averaging 20 and 10 yeah he got that okay okay so that's four
[08:01] when did they start the most improved player I'm assuming like 86 oh so we're
[08:09] going way back okay I think they start I think all like awards like that that are
[08:14] random like I think six man started in the 80s okay would Reggie Miller have
[08:21] won it hmm that doesn't sound right okay I don't think so are there guys that have
[08:27] been on our team that didn't get it as a pacer like did I feel like I feel like
[08:37] Daryl Armstrong won a most improved player award maybe that kind of sounds
[08:46] right I mean he's not counting those guys to or you know counting no I mean not
[08:50] really I guess not as a pacer yeah so right now we've got four I just was
[08:55] thinking of Daryl Armstrong I feel like he won at one time or maybe you won a six
[08:58] man award yeah I can't remember I did that does sound familiar that he won
[09:05] something in one year but not as a pacer because he came to us late in his
[09:09] career but what about did Monta Ellis win one of those six man or most improved
[09:15] definitely not six man I think he won most improved but as a warrior okay all
[09:23] right I mean nothing he brought that up when the when bird was talking to hey I
[09:29] mean that goes on your resume sure do you think the players actually have a
[09:33] resume that they send out their stats on and stuff and how they deal with
[09:40] pressure situations sure how they're good communicators they have like an
[09:45] essay there's no say portion that's a personal statement all right so we're
[09:52] going with four I feel that maybe there was like did Chuck Person win it I don't
[09:59] yeah I doubt it all right so we're going right okay so the you are correct the
[10:05] most improved player award started in the 85-86 season okay the inaugural
[10:11] inaugural winner was Alvin Robertson of the San Antonio never was a pacer I
[10:18] don't think nope and the Pacers you are correct Darryl Armstrong did win most
[10:25] improved in 98-99 as a member of the Romano Magic okay the following year
[10:30] Jalen Rose for the Indiana Pacers 99-2000 Jermaine O'Neal in 01-02
[10:39] Danny Granger in 08-09 and Paul George in 2012-13 we know our pacer
[10:46] trivia in deed and Monta Ellis indeed did win M.I.P. in 06-07 with the Golden
[10:55] State Warriors are there is there anybody else that was a pacer on that
[10:59] list that not like didn't get it as a pacer but Aaron Brooks oh hey yeah look at
[11:07] Aaron Brooks most improved player when was that just recently 2009-2010 really
[11:16] Alan Henderson whose front went to school at Burbough in Annapolis you Scott
[11:26] Skyles he was a pacer you know I think that's it for Pacers the Pacers are
[11:35] second in total M.I.P. awards to the Orlando Magic who have five winners
[11:44] Ryan Anderson, Hito Turkeglue, Darryl Armstrong, Tracy McGrady and Scott
[11:55] Skyles okay so then well we need to let's let's win one this year and let's
[12:00] tie up the Orlando Magic mm-hmm I don't know who that would be it would be Miles
[12:06] Turner I suppose but there's a lot of guys out there right now yeah that also
[12:12] made just I mean just cuz we're talking that reminds me do we have we ever had a
[12:15] six-man as a pacer yeah man deadlift shrimp deadlift shrimp that's right he
[12:22] was he was back-to-back wasn't he yep did we went back-to-back six-man that's
[12:27] awesome do believe that was that was in the late 80s early 90s before we
[12:34] traded him yes I like that guy good hair on his head and then he made a resurgence
[12:48] on Parks and Recreation oh yeah that's right
[12:51] just make a bucket so he was consecutive back-to-back six-man of the year awards
[13:00] in 91-92 in the 92-93 season he was the only player in the NBA to finish the top
[13:07] 25 in scoring rebounding and assists and was selected that year to be in his
[13:13] first all-star game following that season shrimp was traded to the
[13:18] Supersonics for Derek McKee and anybody remember who's with you shouldn't
[13:24] because I've never heard of this dude Gerald patio you spell that name Gerald
[13:29] padded p-a-d-d-i-o okay patio oh I know him he was uh he opened that live venue
[13:38] and broader hold the patio