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[00:27] It's Coalson. Do you have anything anything queued up for us?
[00:33] Yeah, buddy of mine
[00:35] Patrick
[00:37] He wanted to know
[00:40] the origin of hit the head
[00:44] I thought that was pretty good. This is like use the restroom. So yeah, you're going to the bathroom. Like I'm gonna go hit the head
[00:52] And and I
[00:55] I suppose the the question is why do we call a toilet the head?
[01:06] I'm gonna say
[01:09] It's a nautical
[01:11] Turn hmm, like on okay milk on like Navy ships. They call it the head
[01:17] Why it's called the head. I don't know
[01:21] But you think this is a
[01:24] Naval term, yeah
[01:27] Dude, well, that's that's cool because we're naval gazing today
[01:33] Nasal gaving
[01:36] Nasal keeping as well
[01:39] Harper does that sound familiar to you? Definitely a nautical term. I'm with you there. I I
[01:44] wonder if the placement of
[01:48] Head on early vessels had something to do with the naming
[01:56] You would have thought that they would have put it at that back of the ship
[01:59] But maybe for some reason it was at the front of the ship
[02:03] now head doesn't necessarily refer in any nautical way to any part of a ship as far as I know but
[02:09] Mm-hmm
[02:12] Also, what's the hit part? Yeah, why do you I assume I'm peeing on it
[02:20] You die hit that flush button super hard
[02:24] Maybe sometimes you just say it you're gonna hit something when you are gonna go real quick, you know
[02:31] I feel like I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna hit the showers. Yeah, I just feel like all nautical terms are super old
[02:39] Like they just so you think this is like
[02:43] Pirates and stuff. I just I feel like all those terms they just stick around and never get recycled, right?
[02:48] And then they're used for space
[02:53] Yeah
[02:54] Do they call the the bathroom in the spaceship the head? I think they call that a vacuum. I
[03:02] Hit the back
[03:05] On the head part, I mean you could you know for men, you know, you've got the
[03:13] the head of the
[03:14] The penis. Mm-hmm. If you're not if you're hitting things with it, I
[03:22] You know, I don't want to speak for everybody yeah, I mean just slap that down on the toilet those early maybe days were weird
[03:29] And do you think the head?
[03:34] Because I think it's a particularly a military like a naval thing as opposed to just general nautical stuff
[03:41] I don't know why I think that but
[03:44] So do you think it's there's a distinction between a urinal and a toilet and a urinal as a head and the
[03:52] So I I always think of the urinal as the head
[03:56] I mean that I'm not saying that I haven't gone to hit the head and there was no urinal
[04:00] But I I think I think of the urinal as it has the head versus the crapper or the John sure
[04:07] I mean in early sailing ships, I'm sure that you
[04:13] Yeah
[04:17] In early sailing vessels, I'm pretty sure the head was a bucket
[04:20] So this is probably like some time after they started moving water around naval vessels
[04:28] Which probably just pee off the side of the boat. I mean it depends on the circumstances. I suppose
[04:36] But yeah choppy waters, you know extremely dangerous
[04:40] I
[04:42] Mean cuz wouldn't they just like have
[04:46] Didn't you like hang on to a rope to take a crap like off the side of the boat?
[04:51] I mean, I would say this like
[04:54] At the beginning on this of saying
[05:02] Pretty sure I think there was like a little
[05:05] A little little place where you put your butt and you held on to a rope. You don't think they had bucket technology
[05:12] No, I think but why would you want to fill a bucket and dump it when you could just crap off the side of the boat
[05:18] I mean because there seems like a high chance of me falling off the boat and eating. That's what he likes
[05:29] Do you think head is short for something like
[05:33] It's a shortened version of like a head room or
[05:39] Like a max headroom max edger. Yeah, maxed room
[05:44] Now I think that Joey's just slapping his penis on stuff
[05:53] The only other
[05:55] time where I can
[05:57] Think of that terminology being uses like full steam ahead
[06:01] Maybe you're only made like maybe water is being run through the ship
[06:06] by the ship's forward movement and so you don't want to be using the
[06:13] Facilities if the ship is not underway
[06:16] Hmm
[06:18] Well, oh, yeah, okay, that's that is definitely a thing like if you're
[06:23] You know, you're on a boat. You don't want to be
[06:26] Using the bathroom when you're just sitting there, right?
[06:29] Because then it's just floating up around you
[06:32] Well, I mean modern vessels have holding tanks, but you wouldn't want to empty the holding tank while you're sitting
[06:38] Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Well, I don't want to do that. I poured it off. That does that seems very unfriend
[06:42] Yeah, that's against the rules even maybe I don't know
[06:46] It depends on if it's your port or
[06:52] And so you think Harper that this goes back to like a long time ago
[07:00] Well, so I think now that it probably was after the advent of electricity because I think it's after you're actively moving water
[07:08] Okay around a ship
[07:10] for there to be
[07:12] something considered a bathroom
[07:16] And I think it's near the front of the ship for some reason
[07:19] I don't know why I think that I
[07:21] guess because that just in my mind is where
[07:24] The head of the ship the front of the ship even though that's not a nautical term at all. Mm-hmm
[07:29] And we don't think this comes from John Crapper right it came up with the toilet
[07:36] It was his middle name head or anything
[07:43] That's my only guess John head crapper
[07:48] That's your only guess
[07:58] Okay, okay
[08:06] So we pick a nautical, I guess I'm gonna go Shakespeare then
[08:11] And then Joey Joey you're going horse racing
[08:17] Falconry, yeah
[08:22] Falcons have heads. All right, so nautical origin the term head for the ship's toilet dates back centuries with records as early as the 15th century on
[08:37] Square rigged ships the front was the logical place for the trains because the wind usually blew from the stern
[08:45] Keeping the smell and waste away from the rest of the ship. Uh-huh
[08:50] And that's often way the figurehead was attached as well
[08:57] Hmm now I'm real curious what okay often a simple perch or holes in the bow spirit
[09:06] So ways could be carried away when you hold on to a rope
[09:09] There's a rope
[09:13] Yeah, sure
[09:17] Okay
[09:18] So the wind blew from the stern. Yeah, it makes sense, right? That's how you get your ship moving. Yeah
[09:26] Let's see according to history Navy military that use of the term head
[09:34] Dates to at least as early as 1708
[09:39] When woods Rogers used it in his book a cruising voyage around the world
[09:45] So he's the first one to put it in print, right?
[09:48] Yeah, head head in nautical sense referring to the bow or for part of ship dates back to 1485
[09:56] And Harper you you nailed it miss miss the timeline pretty poorly
[10:04] Okay, here we go. I guess the rope was was not for holding on it was yep cleaning. Yep for something else. Oh
[10:11] No
[10:12] Yep
[10:13] And they did use I mean, yeah, it would drag alongside the boat. Yeah
[10:18] One rope for the entire crew. I mean, that's not super great a frayed rope
[10:25] And apparently people would just pee over the side in good weather, but yeah buckets and bad
[10:32] Okay
[10:33] Yeah, so remind me not to be a sailor and 17th century anything
[10:42] cool
[10:43] All right. Well, that was super gross. Hey, thanks. Yeah
[10:48] Real unsanitary real fast. Yeah. Yeah
[10:52] Lots of self-flagellation happening in that one. I don't know this this was a weird one
[10:59] The poop deck
[11:03] Refers to the uppermost rear or the stern of the ship
[11:08] Where the wheel the wheel is looking
[11:12] From the French loop
[11:15] For this yeah, but there's actually not for pooping. No. Yeah, you do that on the opposite
[11:21] Yeah, that on the front of the ship opposite the poop deck
[11:25] That's a real confusing first day
[11:27] You're getting the tour like this is the poop deck not for pooping. This is the head for hitting that
[11:37] for pooping
[11:38] For me to poop on
[11:43] All right, we answer your question, Joey
[11:46] Heart Coalson, sorry. Yeah, John. I feel like I learned something
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