Lost Fraction

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[00:45] I've had this one for a while and I
[00:49] Don't know the answer to it. And so I'm coming to you guys
[00:54] Rigmarole
[00:57] What's rigmarole mean how do you say it?
[01:01] Where does it come from is it Shakespeare? It's like the whole rigmarole kind of thing
[01:10] You're gonna give it the song and dance. That's what I think of is the rigmarole
[01:15] Yeah, I was thinking yeah, I was like the yeah the whole bunch of nonsense
[01:21] Maybe it doesn't have maybe maybe it doesn't have a flip flip into or negative connotation
[01:26] But I kind of always thought it did I think it I think it does in the sense that it implies like a bunch of excessive
[01:33] Uh
[01:35] pageantry, maybe
[01:37] So like a horse and pony show kind of yeah a bunch of rigmarole. That's right
[01:42] Or maybe even like unnecessary bureaucracy, like I just think it's unnecessary steps. Sure
[01:48] Okay. Yeah, I agree with every application it there is definitely like a negative connotation
[01:57] Nobody's like can't wait for all that rigmarole. Yeah, nobody's looking forward to the rigmarole
[02:02] So I was like, oh, it's the whole rigmarole that doing this we don't want that half. Show me that whole rigmarole
[02:10] Can you have a half or is that like a lost a lost reaction?
[02:14] It's not a lost positive
[02:19] Today at work we had a half rigmarole. Yeah, it was a while. Okay, that's actually good compared to the whole rigmarole
[02:31] I mean maybe with this new government agency that
[02:34] Musk and
[02:36] Rama Swami are gonna put together that the US government will go from whole rigmarole to you
[02:43] Half rigmarole. Okay, they're gonna have the rigmarole. That's there. I
[02:48] Suggest that that is their slogan. They should that should be their tagline. Yeah. Yeah
[02:53] half the rigmarole
[02:55] and
[02:57] Origin-wise this seems like a word that's that's borrowed from another language. Yeah, it's definitely a weird word
[03:04] Yeah, so it's is it r-i-g
[03:10] Marole I don't know
[03:15] Well, I don't know if I've even seen it written in my head I would have said rig r-i-g-o-r
[03:22] R
[03:24] M-a-r-o-l-e rig-a-marole something like that. M-a-r-o-l-e
[03:32] Yeah, r-i-g-a
[03:35] Yeah morale basically. Yeah morale. Okay. Is it connect is it connected to morale then?
[03:43] So no, I'm trying to think of other instances of
[03:47] roots
[03:50] Is it related to rigor mortis? No, I don't think so. That's the first thing that I mean, that's like
[03:57] Similar. Yeah roots sort of right though
[04:01] But I don't feel like there's any say related to rigatoni
[04:05] Mmm, I do feel like
[04:12] Marole might be
[04:14] Yeah
[04:16] Morale, maybe it would it be M-a-l-o
[04:20] Maybe
[04:22] Would it be bad for morale? I wouldn't it be to have rigmarole one would think yeah
[04:27] I wonder if it is the same route then I
[04:32] Think it's the same route
[04:37] But so a different route then probably yeah, it's gotta be yeah
[04:42] Uh
[04:46] Is it a French construction? Yeah, it seems Frenchy to me but I was also thinking it seems
[04:55] Military ish or something
[04:58] Does feel military
[04:59] See, I was thinking it felt
[05:04] Jibberish II, you know, I'm like there was that where they were just like making up
[05:09] Words and slang in the 20s, right weren't they? That's a sure the bees knees and whatnot
[05:16] Yeah, rigmarole. I see you got me on the rigmarole
[05:25] So Harper's got French you've got military I was gonna go French military, I'm just gonna go in the fridge we haven't
[05:33] We've never had them in Napoleon, I don't think
[05:37] Any thoughts anything I mean, yeah French to me seems
[05:43] All right, you know what? I'm gonna go. What'd you say rig on my role? I don't know. That's my French accent
[05:49] Oh take French
[05:54] I'm gonna go Italian. I feel like they
[05:59] Yeah, I think they could they could slow things down if they need to oh, yeah
[06:06] Oh to a crawl the Italian bureaucracy is world-renowned
[06:11] You can't yeah, I'm gonna go you can't be doing that much work between lunch and second lunch
[06:19] No, are you gonna find time to bribe officials?
[06:27] Allegedly
[06:31] So you're not taking Shakespeare Joey
[06:34] No, no, I'm gonna I'm going it Italian cuz what people I mean, I know he was making up language
[06:40] But I feel even that's a bridge too far
[06:45] Who's a Shakespeare, yeah
[06:47] We would have said that on stage that would be like what's the time talking about what's going on?
[06:52] Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go
[06:54] military, but I think it's
[06:57] More recent than than Napoleon. So it's like a snafu
[07:05] It's like a
[07:09] Vichy France thing
[07:11] Yeah, I'm gonna say early
[07:14] 20th century, but it's like was was coined by
[07:22] American soldiers in France during World War one. Oh
[07:28] It's like very specific. Yeah, I like this
[07:34] It's solid that's really so it is
[07:39] Also, what do you think you get you got a time frame? Yeah, I don't know if I can beat that's a great guy
[07:44] It's a really good specific. So
[07:46] Yeah, I'm gonna go. I guess I am I was going to flappers in the 20s, but I think I'm gonna go Shakespeare. Why not?
[07:54] It's iambic pentameter probably, I don't know. Is it a haiku itself?
[08:02] Exactly so rigmarole or less commonly rigmarole
[08:16] What are I gmar?
[08:20] Something such as procedure or an explanation that is long
[08:24] complicated and tedious or dated
[08:30] Confused and meaningless talk according to Merriam-Webster
[08:35] Okay
[08:37] It seems like it's probably a reduction of ragman role a
[08:43] long look catalog or list
[08:47] Which was dating to the early 16th century in middle English, it seems like
[08:54] hmm
[08:56] Middle English ragman a rule
[08:59] Yeah, it was a roll or scroll you of writing used in a game of chance
[09:04] so rag
[09:08] Ragman or ragman role or ragman role were used figuratively to mean a list of catalog. So that just begs the question
[09:17] What?
[09:18] How did we get to those two words?
[09:21] The ragman role
[09:25] Okay, here we go
[09:27] Edward the first of England also knows the hammer of the Scots
[09:31] Forced members of the Scottish nobility to swear fealty to him by signing oaths of allegiance
[09:36] That were collected on a number of parchments that together made up what came to be called the ragman role
[09:46] It may contain a Scandinavian route related to cowardice and Icelandic
[09:52] Ragmini means coward or could go back to a medieval word for the devil
[09:58] Calgary Burns Club says that ragman role came from colorful bits of cloth and ribbons of all wits and lengths that were attached to the
[10:09] signatories seals
[10:11] But the name may also have derived from an earlier earlier record compiled for the purposes of people taxation by a man a
[10:20] man named ragamond
[10:33] Interesting. Okay
[10:36] Yeah, so what was we've got?
[10:39] Colorful strings and what's going on people taxation?
[10:45] They are always place but ragman role eventually became
[10:50] nonsense
[10:52] meaning nonsense and
[10:54] became rigmarole
[10:59] So I guess ragman did we talk about this already ragman was?
[11:02] The name of a game or a scroll of parchment had strings hanging from it that pointed to various
[11:08] Likely body
[11:10] Versus in the scroll and players would choose a string to find their verse and it would be read out to the entertainment of all
[11:16] So that may be where the connection to nonsense maybe came from or something
[11:24] So Mary Webster says both terms fell out of written use but ragman role persisted in speech and in the 18th century
[11:31] It resurfaced in writing as rigmarole with the meaning of succession of confused millions of foolish statements
[11:38] and in the mid 19th century
[11:41] rigmarole
[11:43] Acquired the sense of referring to a complex or ritualistic procedure and then yeah
[11:52] I've always heard is a rig on my role instead of yeah me too. Yeah, I
[11:57] Guess I've heard people say rigmarole. There must be a
[12:07] regional aspect to the rigmarole
[12:10] Yeah, it seems like the rig on my role became more common towards the end of the 20th century
[12:18] At least writing wise spelling wise
[12:21] Yeah, I
[12:23] recent examples in
[12:25] Papers are all using rigmarole. Oh
[12:28] Really?
[12:30] Sacramento be national review
[12:34] Fortune wapo. Yeah, the Merriam Webster's got us at rig rigmarole
[12:44] As a correction to rigmarole, so it came from
[12:55] None of the things that we were thinking
[12:57] And it was just a
[13:00] It was Shakespearean time frame that came from a place
[13:04] Yeah, sure in the ragman. We talked about the ragman rule being connected to Margaret
[13:09] of Scotland or no
[13:12] No, I just had I just had Edward
[13:16] Who was king Edward? Okay, right. Yeah. Yeah, okay, but who's this? Yeah, well
[13:24] Edward
[13:26] Exceeded Margaret of Scotland
[13:28] but there was no clear heir to the throne and
[13:32] So in an effort to avoid war between the clans
[13:35] Edward offered to hear the cases of the claimants and just to decide who had the most valid claim
[13:43] Because he was concerned about making an unpopular choice
[13:46] He asked the nobles with whom he met to swear allegiance to him by signing the first of the ragman rules
[13:51] And then it just got more and more complicated eventually a 2,000 signatures on it
[13:56] There's something I learned a lot, but I don't know if I learned where rigmarole came from. I
[14:08] Like that it went rigmarole just
[14:14] Came out of the language because they weren't writing down ragman role
[14:17] They were just saying it and so eventually when somebody wrote it down again, they just wrote it wrong. I like that idea
[14:24] People just say ragman role and you know, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You just hear rigmarole or rig mole
[14:31] Rigmarole, I can't even say the other way
[14:37] Well nailed it
[14:39] Got that for you Coalson. You feel better. Yeah nailed it. Yeah, I do. I feel like I know more than I used to
[14:46] Are you gonna be talking about ragman rolls now? Yeah, I'm basically I'm getting rig
[14:52] rid of rigmarole in my
[14:54] Lexicon, I'm just gonna start calling things ragman rolls. I like it. Yeah, that will remind me not to
[15:00] reintroduce this under Google Bowls in two months
[15:05] All right
[15:10] That's a good one Coalson. Thank you
[15:14] It's a weird word it is a weird word. Thanks English
[15:20] Middle Ages