Read-Option Father

[00:06] Oh, we do under Google rules. That was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:19] We said we signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you
[00:28] Guys it is that time of the show
[00:33] Where we need to get some questions answered
[00:38] I know that
[00:41] We want to help but we just needs we need somewhere to point our our laser beam focus
[00:53] What's been eating you up Jason
[00:56] Well, this one goes back. I'm learning that a lot of my under Google has now come from
[01:02] My son Ethan asked me what what does that mean when I say something? So we were sitting around the dinner table and
[01:09] Talking about something
[01:10] And and I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know. I've been thinking maybe I'll throw my hat in the ring, you know for this
[01:19] Position or whatever
[01:20] And Ethan was like, what is that throw your hat in the ring? What it?
[01:26] Why would you do that? What are you talking about? I said, I have no idea son
[01:32] But you just created more content for me
[01:39] My boy is in this in the age where he just asked why for everything
[01:43] Oh, yeah, and I try to give him good answers, but some of them are really unanswerable questions
[01:50] so I
[01:51] Those I pitched to his mother. Hmm, and I leave I just leave the premises generally
[01:57] That's less pitching than punting. I
[02:00] Mean, yeah. Well, it's like a it's a lateral pitch
[02:03] I
[02:11] Yeah, I'm a read option
[02:13] father and I
[02:16] Mean it works fine until it's 90% effect. Yeah
[02:20] I'm pretty athletic, right? So
[02:23] Compared to a three-year-old
[02:25] He's more flexible to me though. Well a lot. Yeah
[02:31] But those fine motor skills got a way to go
[02:35] But so, yeah, so throwing my hat in the ring I didn't I didn't know I have no idea
[02:42] circus rings
[02:45] pricing rings
[02:46] boxing ring
[02:47] So I think that to defy like to define these first and so I think that just means you you want to be
[02:55] I always sort of use it as I'd like to be considered. I like to try this kind of thing, right? Yep
[03:01] You're planning to vie for whatever thing there is
[03:05] Right the hat part again. I mean, I feel like that'd be a marker of who you were
[03:13] But what is the ring?
[03:15] It's probably not Lord of the rings, right? I feel like lots of people have similar hats
[03:20] Yeah, especially probably when this phrase came about. Yeah, everybody was wearing a bowler
[03:28] Fedora or something, right? It could be a boxing ring
[03:32] Where you say hey, I'm ready to fight. Yeah
[03:37] Yeah, who wants to take this guy on?
[03:40] In this bear not quite so
[03:42] So many people want to do it. They got a you got to throw your hat into the ring. Hmm instead of forming a line
[03:49] Great, right. I
[03:51] Mean the other things that we throw we did hat trick. Hey, did we? Yeah
[03:57] Which there's a hot the hockey tradition where they throw things into the rink
[04:04] The rink there's no way it comes from that right? I wouldn't think so
[04:09] But also like I don't feel like that's
[04:11] You know, you're that's like a celebration, right? You're not right, right?
[04:16] For sure. Could it be a metaphorical ring like the political ring a political thing?
[04:26] Metaphorical hat in a metaphorical ring, but then that's just the saying
[04:30] Right, how likely is it planning the elder?
[04:37] Involved in this one. I feel like they were using a lot of like clay shards for boating and
[04:44] Things like that. Yeah, I guess they invented hats until like the well, that was my next thing was like technology was Roman
[04:52] I
[04:57] Definitely that one that you would that you would be able into toss, you know, they're mostly metal things, right? Yeah
[05:03] I don't know. I imagine there were straw hats
[05:06] very early on
[05:09] So when do we think people started using this phrase along those lines if it's not planning the elder then it's
[05:17] The younger or Shakespeare, I guess I kind of was thinking
[05:23] Shakespeare hmm. I was kind of thinking maybe in that era
[05:29] Could this somehow be horse racing do horses have more hats?
[05:34] What about a cock fighting ring?
[05:36] Hmm or a crime ring?
[05:39] Hmm. They were more hoods than hats
[05:44] The crowd gets I mean some of these guys the your old-timey gangsters like they're deaf. They're hat guys
[05:51] Yeah, okay. Okay, British gangsters are definitely had guys
[05:55] Yeah
[05:57] Cuz it could say like who wants to do a crime tonight and say I mean
[06:04] And my name is in my hat
[06:07] so we know who
[06:09] Is gonna participate? Yeah, was this like children whose mothers had written the names in the hats like yeah
[06:17] Because that is this is I think the the wicket that we're getting stuck on which is
[06:22] Okay, so you throw your hat in the ring. How do we know who's had it is like?
[06:26] Shakespeare has me
[06:29] Intrigue though. Yeah, I
[06:32] Like I like British bare knuckle boxing
[06:36] Okay from the I
[06:39] Don't know Oliver twist days
[06:42] Or maybe it's a thing like yeah, you don't
[06:45] Since everybody's wearing a hat you toss your hat in the ring. You just look around for the guy that's not wearing a hat
[06:55] That definitely could be because yeah
[06:58] Because if everybody's got the hat then it's all right you for yeah, you go better not go fight. I
[07:07] Like that wait, so we're gangs in New York days
[07:12] Or but you're thinking in England
[07:14] I was thinking British, but it could just as easily be
[07:19] But same time same time frame same here other side of the pond gotcha do falconers wear hats
[07:27] Just trying to cross off our likely said feel like you should
[07:31] What about trains?
[07:33] trains or
[07:36] Nautical stuff. Oh
[07:39] The Navy guys definitely wear hats
[07:43] Yeah, but if they toss theirs, they're not gonna back. Yeah. Yeah, plus there's no
[07:50] Volunterism in the military particularly you the whole thing is oh, yeah told
[07:58] That's like the whole that's like their whole thing that's their whole bit
[08:02] Yeah, I kind of like yeah, I'm with you on era but
[08:10] Is it somehow Andrew Jackson?
[08:13] Or like some weird political thing
[08:17] Like the block of cheese thing whatever yeah or old kinder hook or they have weird stuff
[08:24] It do have weird stuff. I'm going Shakespeare. I think it's the Shakespeare on Shakespeare. Okay
[08:36] What do you think Joey
[08:38] yeah, I mean Shakespeare I think to me seems about right because it's it feel like it's one of those things where it could be a
[08:49] Just a clever like a clever phrase that everybody you know you get
[08:55] But I feel like there's some missing context
[08:58] That we don't have these days
[09:02] Looks like Harper nailed this
[09:07] According to well, I can't read the whole article. Okay, here we go
[09:13] political dictionary calm
[09:16] comes from boxing
[09:18] where contestants would literally throw their hats into the boxing ring is a signal of wanting to join in
[09:24] the fight
[09:29] Morning Chronicle of London November 30th 1804 origin and politics
[09:37] That him has evolved into a political saying in part due to Teddy Roosevelt who was an avid boxer in
[09:44] 1912 a reporter asked Roosevelt about his plans to challenge Taft and Roosevelt replied quote
[09:50] My hat is in the ring. The fight is on. Yeah, I'm stripped to the buff
[09:58] Teddy letting it all hang out. So it does seem yeah boxing
[10:05] with the close parallel with
[10:09] with the same intention for
[10:14] Mostly need
[10:16] politicians and then it
[10:19] quickly moved into
[10:21] metaphorical things I guess the first
[10:25] Figurative use
[10:28] Published in the Reading Mercury Oxford Gazette
[10:33] in 1820
[10:36] Now sir, I throw down my glove or according to the more
[10:40] modern fancy throw my hat in the ring and challenge you to produce proofs from the Reading Address. I
[10:47] Like it when people go with proofs as plural. Mm-hmm
[10:56] Yeah, it seems like it's pretty solidly
[11:00] Boxer sweet take that Shakespeare. Yeah. Yeah, you fucking nailed that
[11:09] Teddy Roosevelt quote
[11:16] This is going on