Episode 151 · July 30, 2022
No Pressure
A host's rice came out badly, and the group works out that a rice cooker's "cup" isn't a US cup.
“Pacer Nation, I don't have a rice cooker. That's all I'm saying.” (16:47)
Questions
Why is a rice cooker cup a different size from a measuring cup? (02:35)
Our guess
The rice cooker's "cup" is really a scoop or a metric-based unit, translated as "cup", perhaps from Japan.
The rice cooker's "cup" is really a scoop or a metric-based unit, translated as "cup", perhaps from Japan.
Reveal the answer
The answer
A rice cooker cup is about 180 ml, while a US cup is about 240 ml. The rice cooker uses a traditional Japanese measure (similar in volume to a sake cup), so the two are not interchangeable.
A rice cooker cup is about 180 ml, while a US cup is about 240 ml. The rice cooker uses a traditional Japanese measure (similar in volume to a sake cup), so the two are not interchangeable.
Verdict right
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] do you guys have time for a quick under google sure [00:03] why not a short one yeah i mean mate probably [00:07] um Joey sounds like he's got a burning question that he has i do he really does [00:11] and i actually i really wanted an answer for this [00:14] okay all right let's do it then we do an under google rules [00:29] that was the playa super excited um told us we had to [00:35] he said we signed up for it in the end it's going to be better and more true [00:41] than google can give you um so here's the deal um i went to go [00:49] make um i was gonna make some rice in our house [00:53] um one night and they just said hey can you make it so i said all right [00:57] so we've got a rice cooker and it's pretty easy you said when you say they [01:02] you mean like your wife and your baby the family the [01:05] the family was the family was over uh like [01:08] the baby said i really need some rice right now yeah he looked at me [01:12] and he and he said and you know you know i don't leave words to [01:16] communicate with him sure sure it was sort of a look so no [01:20] pressure here a household of uh chinese family members so let's go [01:25] make some rice well here's the thing i've done it a bunch of times [01:29] okay there's like four asian women being like make rice perfectly that have [01:35] all have their long careers of running successful running like in restaurants [01:39] yeah it's not just like your average right no pressure at all this is going [01:44] great so they say i'm getting i'm sweating [01:48] already can you can you make rice i said sure [01:51] and i've done it a bunch of times um [01:56] um so we've got a rice cooker it's just you know [01:59] it's a machine that's you know utility appliance or appliance or whatever like [02:05] made just for that so basically on the inside of it there's [02:08] there's just the numbers and essentially it's you know you put whatever amount of [02:12] rice in there and then there's numbers there you put the water up to [02:15] the line so but here's the problem i made the rice [02:18] it was not good and i was like i was like what [02:22] happened here and you know it was like it was really tough [02:27] and so there wasn't enough water in there and the reason was al dente or it [02:32] was like it didn't get cooked all the way [02:35] yeah it was like al dente it was not yeah like a hard center [02:38] it was like different than al dente pasta yeah don't get rice is not really [02:42] al dente but not in a good way yeah yeah and um [02:46] so here's the eating seeds the problem was [02:50] i used a measure like a cup of rice um [02:57] but the deal is there is a cup that comes with your rice cooker [03:03] and it's also one cup but it's a different size cup um [03:10] so i want to know why there's two different size [03:14] cups they're both called cups and they have a different like different volume [03:19] of measuring so they're not interchangeable [03:23] okay this is interesting because we we just had this debate in my household [03:27] um a few weeks ago as well because we have like [03:30] you know like pyrex things with a handle which is what i use to measure liquids [03:35] and then we have regular measuring cups which i use for dry goods because then [03:39] because in my uh it's their understanding is there it's different [03:45] right there's a a liquid cup and there's a dry cup [03:51] but jill was like no that's stupid a cup that's [03:55] yeah and we looked it up and she and she was right [03:59] right up is a cup a cup is a cup is a cup like it doesn't matter [04:02] like just feels different in the picture exactly but it cups a cup [04:06] right right so i don't know what's going on with your [04:10] rice cooker well it's not the cooker the cooker comes [04:13] with its own cup is that what you're saying [04:15] yeah like they hold it how would what is it is it like [04:19] how does it work is it like inside it is it like hanging off the side like [04:23] is it yeah in the box and you just keep it nearby it's just in the box or [04:26] whatever and then yeah i mean we just put it like we just put it in a [04:29] drawer and then when it's like now i put them in the same drawer and i [04:33] know when it's time to make rice i use the specific one [04:37] but when i'm making literally anything else i use like the [04:41] measuring cups you know but it shouldn't matter right because it's ratio [04:45] of rice to water so yes this the same [04:53] cup right so you measure a cup of rice with the rice cup or [04:57] rice cooker cup and then two cups of water [05:01] no no no so that's actually not so in the rice cooker [05:05] so they have lines in there so it's like says you know one two three for like so [05:09] it's essentially if you do one cup of rice [05:11] bring the water to this line if you have two cups of rice bring the water to this [05:15] line okay sure and so if you're using a [05:18] different sized cup then that that marking does not account for [05:23] that you know different size there shouldn't be a different size cup [05:28] is it is it that's why i call that's why i'm here [05:31] john is it literally called a cup or is it [05:34] just a cup that you're calling a cup in your head it says [05:37] it says like the number one is yeah exactly is this a kleenex tissue [05:41] situation exactly it's like use the use the cup [05:45] and it's capitalized it's its own thing it's a cup with a k or something i [05:51] don't know right exactly no and i i measured them [05:54] they're they're different like uh like you oh so you put water in one [05:58] oh yeah i put water in that one and then i poured it into the cup and then [06:01] they're different so did you pour it into something else to figure out if [06:04] it's like in you know in some different ounces or [06:08] something i don't know uh no i just i don't i just poured the [06:12] rice cup i fill up the rice cup one with water [06:15] and then i pour that into like a measuring cup and then they were [06:18] not you know i was it was my rice cup was full and then i poured it into the [06:22] measuring cup and it was not full okay so the rice cup is more less less [06:28] less yeah and so what happened was which makes [06:32] sense for if you took a dry measuring cup and put a [06:34] thing of rice your water to rice ratio was off [06:38] exactly yes so there was more rice to water than there should have been [06:42] right so that's what happened um i think you just got a [06:48] janky rice cooker well no that is not that is not true [06:53] because when i use the the the cup that comes with it it's [06:57] perfect every time no i know what i'm saying is that it's some sort of off [07:00] brand that's created its own version of cup [07:03] no it's the brand they use in the restaurants it's just the smaller home [07:06] version yeah it's like it's the same one [07:08] macado has it's just as way smaller i mean the issue is that it's the bigger [07:12] one probably uses an actual cup get out of here [07:16] yeah no yeah it's a it's a verbiage problem it's your machine [07:20] they shouldn't say insert one cup of right for every cup of rice do this [07:26] much they say for every scoop yep every scoop sure that's right using [07:30] our scoop our scoop i completely agree with you Jason i think that is the [07:35] answer they've created their own scoop ratio [07:37] that works in their smaller version of things [07:40] and they just called it a cup even though it's not literally a baking cup [07:44] it is a scoop yep and that's the answer that that [07:50] tracks like but they're evil i just don't know we're doing it i agree [07:54] i just feel like well it comes it comes from the [07:57] the problem of the fact that we use the word cup [08:03] as like a which is a general term right like a cup is a cup i go to the [08:08] the cabinet and get a cup to drink some water like [08:11] but somehow that is also like an official measurement [08:14] in baking is one cup or whatever which is a problem we have [08:18] in this is the problem we have in the freaking america right they don't they [08:22] don't do baking with cups in in uh other [08:27] countries right no right yeah if you watch the [08:30] great british baking show they weigh things they're like how many grams of [08:33] this and how many whatever yeah yeah so i mean this is [08:36] this is basically you know so this is america's fault this is [08:41] this is this is this is feet versus meters this is [08:46] or england's fault and then after that our fault [08:50] because we didn't switch to the metric system right and i assume if he's got [08:54] some sort of rice cooker it's probably not being made by [08:58] somebody that cares about the american system of of [09:03] you know measurement well what it could be is the instruction manual [09:08] is you know if it's uh you know manufactured in [09:12] china or it's or even or even japan because they're on a metric system you [09:17] know right so they're just translating their [09:20] instruction manual right and somebody's like oh cup [09:23] like use the cup right and and our stupid english brains [09:28] american brains because we in our world a cup is like an official [09:32] measurement but it's also a coffee cup and it's [09:36] also a drinking cup or it's whatever cup came with your race [09:39] cup that covers your balls like there's a ton of things that a [09:43] cup is [09:49] it's a long walk to work all right for not much payoff [09:55] for a balls joke all right Joey you went on a field trip what did where did i [09:59] went to go look we actually had used it this evening [10:02] and um i i wanted to just look and see on the on the inside where the markings [10:07] were i wanted to see if it actually used the [10:10] word cup and it does not it sounds like your family judged you for [10:15] something that you assumed and and and rightfully so because [10:20] you're um you know a white dude um and then [10:24] it was wrong and now we were discussing it at the break Joey is that [10:28] probably or in the break while you were on your field trip [10:32] is probably like in japan in asia they don't use cup cup is not a [10:37] measuring thing they probably are on the metric [10:40] system and they use x number of grams of rice [10:43] per numbers of milliliters of water and so to make it easy they've created a [10:51] scoop versus a scoop and a line that you [10:54] fill it too but they call it a cut because of the [10:56] it's like a two to one volume wreck so here's the deal um [11:04] there is the standard so the the rice cup is 180 milliliters [11:12] and the u.s cup is 240 oh yeah okay it's a huge difference that's a [11:18] big way it's like it's it's like 25 uh yeah that's why your rice came out bad [11:24] it was not good and i also the thing that like [11:27] that made it personal for me was the fact that i like [11:32] i kind of made dinner less uh you know less good for like [11:35] a big large group of people you know it was [11:39] passable is not the right word it was uh it was edible look it was edible this [11:44] this is an understandable mistake though and i think you [11:47] i think what this under google has taught us [11:50] is that you should forgive yourself mm-hmm yep because it says this is one of [11:56] those things where languages get mixed up and it's uh [12:00] you know it's not your fault it's it's the history of uh human culture [12:09] well so it's also the rice cooker people could [12:15] understand that there's an entire market of people [12:18] that play by different play by this weird cup [12:23] rule and they could just make their rice cup [12:27] scooper an actual cup and well here's the problem [12:32] is that well a couple things about this but like [12:35] the uh so like in japan where where this one's from [12:40] so have you seen like in japanese restaurants they have um [12:44] uh wooden sake cups sure um it's the same size as those it's the same volume [12:50] so it's um like the same historical um oh i see [12:57] size so it's like a cultural thing okay there all right and also at this point [13:04] everybody like we have multiples at home too but like anybody who's had other [13:07] rice cookers you just keep that thing and they're this [13:10] those are all the same and so everybody uh [13:15] everybody already has a bunch of those at home so you don't have to [13:19] use like we've got a cup so basically you just grabbed the cup out of [13:23] the drawer when you should have grabbed the the [13:27] rice yeah we had the other right we had the other we had the rice one i just [13:30] the other one was there here's what i'm thinking i'm thinking [13:34] uh super glue a magnet to the rice cup and then just have the [13:40] the cups magneted to the the rice cooker at all times so you don't get [13:44] mixed them up that's an option that's an option [13:47] that's my that's my theory just it's always there it's always right there or [13:51] always do you know scoop your rice in whatever you're going to scoop it in [13:58] you could use a sake cup you could use you know a coffee cup [14:03] and then use the same thing to fill your water you can do [14:06] two to one it's all about ratios it's all about no no no yeah well [14:10] the thing is well if if you're using the rice cooker it's [14:13] it's got the the water in there i don't even know what the ratio is [14:17] i just put in it's two to one is the ratio [14:21] i'm pretty sure two to one uh i don't know what a stovetop it's two stovetop [14:26] so i don't we don't generally make it on the stovetop [14:29] we have two rice cookers in our house we've got a new style and an old style [14:34] don't mix up your cups because it sounds like this is [14:37] an issue no i i've i learned my lesson i just didn't know why [14:41] that was the thing you think i'm going to make that mistake again so it goes [14:45] back to old japan sake cups is the answer basically yes [14:51] okay probably falcons but yeah probably falcons [14:55] well you should have called us because we would have we would have [14:59] i'm gonna help you through this yeah that's that's all me my bad [15:03] i don't know that's i would have done the same i think i did do the same thing i [15:08] think i had a rice cooker at one point in [15:11] time and could never make a good batch of rice because i was doing the same [15:13] thing that you were doing yeah yeah and i was like why is why is this thing [15:17] good right why is this thing well that was [15:20] that's the thing like one of the reasons i wanted one in the first [15:23] place was because you basically can't mess it up right [15:27] you know once you've got you do it right i mean [15:30] yeah i mean it's just i mean it's it's literally [15:33] you know you take whatever one cup two cups three cups of rice how many people [15:37] coming over whatever you you know you take that much rice [15:41] you wash it you put it in there fill to that line [15:44] and then you push a button and then you walk away and then i don't know [15:47] half hour later you got perfect rice yeah i was able to [15:51] make rice to satisfy you know the the stingiest critic [15:57] this is why i don't cook enough rice because i don't have a rice cooker i [15:59] get it's too much it's i get so nervous doing it on the stove top i mean i do it [16:04] but it's a lot of work i need i need a rice cooker [16:08] hashtag rice cooker hashtag undebeatables coleson gifts [16:15] um can you you could buy it through amazon [16:18] which would give us a cut and then send it to uh [16:22] Joey's house because that's the only address you have i think [16:27] i don't think they have my address okay good because that's been not a good idea [16:31] until you tweet it so i can get so i can get my [16:35] rice liquor presents from the from the fans i'm just saying pacer nation i [16:41] don't have a rice cooker that's all i'm saying [16:43] you would dock me on accident and you wouldn't even you would [16:47] no idea all right chance well i'm glad i'm glad we [16:52] sorted that out did we i just i mean felt like we know about rice [16:57] cookers but we don't know which center to trade [17:00] and we also don't know where we're bad at basketball but we could make you a good [17:06] good cup of rice um if you use the right scoop