Kazoo On Lock

[00:00] It's got it all figured out. It's like a beautiful mind.
[00:03] Yes. You said,
[00:05] did you say a beautiful mind or a beautiful mind?
[00:09] Mind. I don't know. We'll have to listen to the tape.
[00:16] I know this was like a West Virginia, like a coal mine thing or something.
[00:20] I don't know.
[00:21] Oh, I thought you said mime and I was going to correct you. And that was, um,
[00:26] that was Coalson's experimental film project in, uh, high school.
[00:32] I've got to see that tape.
[00:37] I love it. He was maybe,
[00:40] maybe he was mining data or he was miming data. It's all beautiful.
[00:46] That's all I know. It is. It's all beautiful. That's right.
[00:51] Um, do we, uh, we've run out of time for,
[00:55] I think we've run out of time for lots of things. Okay. All right. All right.
[01:00] All right. We'll do, we'll, uh, we'll do it. We'll call some, what do you got?
[01:04] Do you have a quick one? We'll do a quick one. Yeah. I mean,
[01:07] they're all quick, right? And unless we make them not quick, we'll just power up.
[01:11] I'll use the power of mental thinking.
[01:26] We do want to under Google rules. That was the play of super excited.
[01:30] I told us we had to.
[01:34] We signed up for it. In the end,
[01:38] it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you. Uh, okay.
[01:46] Uh, here we go. Um, the, the whole shebang,
[01:55] what's the whole shebang mean? Shebang.
[01:58] So the usage, if I remember correctly,
[02:01] essentially just means everything, right? Like it's all the, all the add-ons,
[02:05] all the extras, everything,
[02:09] including the kitchen sink plus right.
[02:12] But shebang seems like a made up word and we don't use it in any other context
[02:16] than the whole shebang. And that's why it's my question.
[02:18] So shebang to me, I always thought of this as like, it's on amount of Pia,
[02:23] that, that it's like a explosion. It's like everything.
[02:26] It's like an explosion of all the stuff.
[02:30] Explosion of all the, so it's like a bang. Yep. Yeah.
[02:33] So it's just a big bang of theory.
[02:42] It's a big bang of theories as Jon Coalson once said. Um,
[02:47] do you, uh, Joey, how do you feel about this term?
[02:51] Do you hear this term often or do you use it often?
[02:55] I don't use it often. Uh, I probably don't hear it often,
[02:59] but, um, I mean, I'm certainly familiar with it. Um,
[03:07] did you also feel like it was on a month here when you were growing up or we're
[03:10] thinking about it? I mean, I guess, you know, just sort of from context. Yeah.
[03:14] I mean, I guess kinda. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's not like, you're right.
[03:19] I don't, uh, I don't know any other shebangs. There's just,
[03:23] just the one and it's the whole one is there's no half shebang.
[03:30] Yeah. It's true. There's no partial shebang. It's the whole shebang.
[03:35] Yeah. We, we saved up for a long time and we got, uh,
[03:39] you know, we got a quarter shebang. Yeah.
[03:44] Do we think, do we have a, this seems a very, like a very modern phrase.
[03:49] It does. I agree. I agree. Um,
[03:53] last half of the 20th century or something like that. No,
[03:56] I feel like this is maybe a, uh, 20s.
[04:01] Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm feeling like the 20s,
[04:04] but I agree that it's, I don't think this is Shakespeare. I agree with you.
[04:08] And I think it's probably, I'm, I'm thinking it's maybe uniquely American.
[04:13] Do you think it's, um, uh, related to,
[04:18] uh, the bomb?
[04:21] Oh, okay.
[04:25] Like the war, war two you're talking about. Yeah. Like the, it's the whole
[04:29] shebang. Yeah. Okay.
[04:32] I could see this being a wartime, uh, phrase and it's the whole shebang.
[04:38] We're loading up the whole shebang in the plane and we're going to drop it.
[04:42] We're going to drop the whole shebang, but, uh, I mean,
[04:50] okay. And again, does it, is it, is it genderized? I mean,
[04:54] it's a she bang. Is that important?
[04:58] Again, I think that that is, uh, I mean, to me,
[05:02] it's just automotive, but, um, yeah, I mean, yeah.
[05:08] So no, I don't think it's generous. Okay. I think the spelling of it is
[05:14] independent of the word itself. Like that. Okay. All right.
[05:19] Cause it's sort of like, Hey, it's the shebang. Yeah.
[05:23] It's like kind of a fun way to say bang, I guess maybe. I don't know. Like,
[05:27] like the explosion, the whole explosion. Yeah.
[05:32] All right. I like this guest. Uh, let's, uh, it's,
[05:34] it's about the a bomb. Um, and it's a wartime, World War II.
[05:40] Um, what's, uh, I mean, what, what about that though?
[05:46] You know, it says all, like all the, all the things,
[05:50] all the parts of it, all the accessories, like all the,
[05:55] you make a good point. I mean, I, I was, I mean,
[05:57] I was thinking that the bomb would be so big that it would encompass everything.
[06:01] It's just encompass everything. That makes sense. Right. But I mean, you know, um,
[06:08] I wonder if, uh, you know,
[06:11] I was thinking earlier like the twenties and like somehow it was like a flapper
[06:15] phrase or something, you know? Yeah, no, I don't know. Um,
[06:27] I suppose we could always guess Shakespeare because Shakespeare's does
[06:31] everything. That's not Shakespeare. There's no way that joker.
[06:38] Okay. So what do you got in here? So the,
[06:43] the earliest known citation, according to phrase.org.uk,
[06:48] which is one of our favorite spots. Um, uh,
[06:52] Walt Whitman used it to describe a hut or rustic
[06:57] dwelling in, uh, 1862.
[07:03] Um, but then it's also, it's, it's an American phrase that comes about from
[07:07] the 1920s and, uh, let's see.
[07:11] So there's some, uh, history of it sort of mutating, I guess.
[07:15] So Mark Twain uses shebang to refer to a form of vehicle in
[07:19] rough in it in 1872. Let's see. There's a lot of history here. Wow.
[07:28] Wow. Yeah. Okay. Um,
[07:32] it's unclear as to why they say it's okay. So, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah,
[07:37] blah.
[07:39] That vehicle usage does suggest a possible link with a name, uh,
[07:44] for a form of UK sightseeing bus that is, uh,
[07:49] Chara Bonk pronounced Chara bang, uh,
[07:53] derives from the French Chara Bonk carriages with benches.
[07:59] Um, yeah, I don't, it's,
[08:07] it's unclear as to how it came to be, I mean everything.
[08:13] Um, yeah. So it's,
[08:16] it looks like there's some connection with civil war soldiers,
[08:25] but that's not clear how it's connected to, uh,
[08:33] it looks like it first appeared in a newspaper in 1872 with in the phrase
[08:38] entire shebang instead of whole shebang, or did I say 19?
[08:45] I mean 1872.
[08:47] Yeah, he said 1872. Okay. Um, um, which is,
[08:51] yeah, that's weird.
[08:54] What's so, I mean,
[08:57] you could see maybe how like a civil war people were talking about bangs and
[09:03] explosions and on a mafia and PTSD.
[09:09] There's another, uh, idea that the Irish term should be in.
[09:13] Yeah. I mean it's small mug, um,
[09:19] which first appeared in print in the late 18th century means an unlicensed tavern
[09:24] in a shed or even a rundown private house where liquor is illegally dispensed.
[09:30] Given that a popular use of shebang in the 19th century America was to mean
[09:35] dive. Uh, it seems like highly likely that shebang began life as Irish
[09:40] shipping. Um, yeah, I don't know.
[09:47] So it's a dive bar or a rustic, uh, you know,
[09:51] so if you were talking about Walt Whitman's rustic thing as a shebang,
[09:56] then it turns into a dive bar.
[10:02] There's still, there's, there's dots in between that and right.
[10:06] And the whole shebang. Yeah, that's a big question.
[10:08] So we kind of, we can kind of get where it starts and I'm all,
[10:13] I'm all in on Walt Whitman, whatever he does, I support, but, uh, but yeah,
[10:19] how did we get, I really respect that guy.
[10:21] He's doing a lot of good things these days.
[10:27] Um, so yeah, they're saying, so this says, and it's, it's,
[10:29] it's current meaning appeared in a newspaper and saying the entire shebang in
[10:36] 1872, but it doesn't say how we got there. Yeah. So, so yeah,
[10:41] I'm looking at the Miriam Webster has a, um,
[10:45] an article on just the word, the history of the word shebang.
[10:48] And the end of it is saying, uh, I can just read that given that the Irish term
[10:53] shebean was used about a century prior to shebang.
[10:57] It is tempting to consider shebang as developing from shebean.
[11:00] It would after all give some insight into the words building or the words
[11:06] building and tavern meetings. Truth be told, however,
[11:09] there is no verifiable linguistic trail between shebean and shebang,
[11:14] which means that the sudden emergence of shebang with this multiple various
[11:18] meetings in immediate currency remains a Lexic,
[11:23] Lexic, Lexic, Lexic,
[11:26] Lexicographers puzzle. Wow. Okay.
[11:31] So we under Googled an under Googleable.
[11:35] Yes. Nobody knows exactly.
[11:41] So it's dot, dot, dot. And now we're here and now there's profit.
[11:47] All right. Well that's, that's good. Uh, if,
[11:51] if anybody has some insight, they're doing some sort of, you know,
[11:55] college paper on the old, the whole shebang, um,
[11:59] or have tried the whole shebang, uh, uh, chips with entirely new crunch.
[12:04] Let us know how that is too. Yeah.
[12:08] Sounds like, uh, that's something to write in about for sure.
[12:12] Maybe it's coded with that, um,
[12:14] cereal varnish that Clark Griswold invented.
[12:21] Uh, cereal varnishes, cereal varnish.
[12:26] That was another name of Coalson Bay in high school.
[12:29] Sorry. Yeah. That was actually a pretty solid band.
[12:32] I was one of the ones I was more proud of.
[12:36] Actually you play in that one. Um, you know,
[12:40] I was going to say the glockenspiel, but that'd be a lie.
[12:45] Was it the, were you at the point of triangle on that one? No, no, no, no,
[12:49] I think it was cause I think he alternated between kazoo and triangle.
[12:53] It's always kazoo. It's, it's, it's, that's pretty much my go-to.
[12:56] That's what I try out, you know,
[12:59] when I start a new band or when somebody asks for somebody to join the band,
[13:04] I just bring in my kazoo. You just said like kazoo is covered. What do you play?
[13:14] Yeah. When I, when I put out the release for other band members,
[13:17] I'm like, we've got kazoo on the lock.
[13:20] Right. What else can you guys play? I could, I could use, you know,
[13:25] some bass, some drums, some, you know, the piano kazoos on lock,
[13:31] the glockenspiel. Yeah. Cause you unlock. I love it. All right, team.
[13:43] I think we have solved enough problems for today.
[13:47] We're going to take a break until Monday. Uh,
[13:51] we'll we can recap all the previous wins of the Pacers.
[13:56] We might have to do another on to Google about the whole shebang too.
[14:00] Another one. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I feel like we didn't learn enough.
[14:03] We learned, we, we were wrong. It didn't come from World War II or the twenties.
[14:08] That came the civil war. No, actually it came from Ireland.
[14:11] Maybe. I don't know. Maybe.
[14:15] It's a, it's a hard maybe. We'll have to go back.
[14:17] We might have to revisit this one. Yeah. Once, uh, once the, uh, what,
[14:21] what Eddle, what did you call him?
[14:26] The etymological issues. Lexic, lexicographer, lexic,
[14:31] cogla first, lexic, clogler, florist, lexic, lexic,
[14:36] lexic, clogla first. When they, when they figure this out, let us know.
[14:39] The lexic, clogla slur. That's what we're going to call it.
[14:44] That's the name of Jason's band. The lexic, clogla first.
[14:48] And what he else are in that.
[14:51] Too many. Yeah. Uh,
[14:55] well on that notes, I'd like to thank you for listening and, uh,
[15:00] man, thanks for getting this far. Um,
[15:04] nobody's still listening.