Episode 104 · July 31, 2021
No Soul
After a trip to the Florida Keys, a host asks about cracker cows and whether they're the source of the slur "cracker".
“Shout out Indiana Jones.” (18:19)
Questions
Is the slur "cracker" from "cracker cows", and what is a cracker cow? (00:34)
Our guess
Not from the cow: probably from the crack of a whip (slave drivers or cattle herders), or from salty crackers.
Not from the cow: probably from the crack of a whip (slave drivers or cattle herders), or from salty crackers.
Reveal the answer
The answer
Cracker cows are real (Florida cracker cattle, a small breed from Spanish stock). The word "cracker" for poor frontier whites likely comes from "whip cracker" (cattle drivers), and it existed even in Shakespeare's time as a word for a boaster. In the 1940s it became an epithet for bigoted whites.
Cracker cows are real (Florida cracker cattle, a small breed from Spanish stock). The word "cracker" for poor frontier whites likely comes from "whip cracker" (cattle drivers), and it existed even in Shakespeare's time as a word for a boaster. In the 1940s it became an epithet for bigoted whites.
Verdict right
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] All right Coalson it is time for another under Google we do under Google rules. That was the play of super excited [00:19] told us we had to [00:23] We signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you let me help you this week [00:34] so I was recently on a trip to the Florida Keys and [00:39] And I was talking to a local and he was explaining to me about [00:46] cracker cows [00:49] Okay, I don't know if you've heard of cracker cows. I hadn't heard of cracker cows. I know all those words, right? [00:55] But apparently it is far as this so I haven't googled this and this is why I'm talking to my my you know [01:01] two of my my smartest friends [01:03] He said that cracker cows were [01:06] specifically brought over from Spain and they're like scrawny or in shorter or weaker or whatever [01:14] And that it became like a swamp cow that like the keys were able to like take care of [01:23] Right like they they were you know, we're like southern Florida and like the keys [01:28] there's this smaller weaker crummy cow called the cracker cow from Spain and [01:33] But here's this this is the part of the under Google [01:38] this local speculated or or or told me that the phrase cracker as [01:46] a slur for white people came from [01:50] the fact that [01:52] poor [01:53] Floridians were taking care of cracker cows [01:59] And so I would like to first of all, I didn't believe him [02:04] But I maybe maybe he's right [02:07] So I guess I kind of want to talk about [02:10] cracker cows [02:11] Whether any of the any of the things that he said to me are true [02:15] Also, if we don't believe this is true what the origin of cracker as a slur for white people is [02:22] I think all that's very interesting [02:24] Yeah [02:26] I've never heard of a cracker cow. No, I've never heard of a cat a swamp cow [02:32] It sounds completely oxymoronic cows eat grasses and [02:40] and [02:41] Whatnot did you see these cows and those things right? So so so here's the deal [02:49] So the reason keys are keys is they're not islands right there. There are these these [02:54] Is basically a coral island that's okay. So yeah [02:59] So the what I learned was that there are these groves right these mangroves that sort of [03:06] Collect earth and dirt and build up [03:09] This way, right? So it's basically like there's this this plant like plant life underneath all of the things that exist [03:18] Yeah, and it's different than you know, and there's coral all around it, of course [03:22] But like but it's different than an island [03:26] And so rock yes, and this is just like silt and earth and dirt over mangrove plants essentially [03:34] and [03:36] And that those things can be very grassy and and and feed animals now [03:41] The problem is is that it's hard to get them between islands [03:46] And that that what I learned is that there was a guy and oh [03:51] Somebody's folly [03:52] Somebody started with an F, but he built a [03:56] train track all the way down from all of the [03:59] From one end of the keys to the other and it was a huge [04:04] Money suck and and ultimately a failure [04:08] But basically you've got a bunch of like redneck [04:12] Floridians living on these islands and they start growing these [04:17] Small weekly cows like sickly cows now [04:21] There's also small deers on on Deer Island out there. They're like they're like pygmy cows. They're like I [04:30] Don't know like the size of a dog [04:32] Which is pretty cool. So like there's a bunch of weird stuff out there and they can live off these islands [04:38] Because there's grass [04:40] There's no sand like it's it's like swampy. It's like there's a bunch of [04:44] There's no sand it's all like earth and in swamp and grass [04:49] Sure. Yeah, so cows can definitely live on it [04:53] so I [04:56] Think that so in the ideas that they they raise these cows [05:01] Right cuz they were chakra cows they were cheap to buy and cheap to like, you know care [05:06] Then you could sell the meat and that I guess so they got yeah milk [05:11] And it was they no, no, I don't think it was a milk milk thing [05:13] I don't think it was a milk cow. I think it was like a meat cow [05:16] I think it was more like like like if you were selling shitty beef [05:20] you're so the [05:25] where this falls apart to me then is that the I mean if people were raising them as a [05:32] Crop animal if you will or whatever that's not the right term, but [05:37] Stock as livestock animal, right? They need more space than these little islands [05:41] Well, you'd need more space and then you'd also want to be closer to a market like [05:46] Your way the F out right keys. Like how do you get your your product? No, but I think that's the whole idea [05:52] I think it's basically not a really much of a money-making [05:57] Thing I think it's it definitely won't be right. It's poor white people having a few cows and [06:04] They were called cracker cows and that's how you get crackers [06:07] I think is the was was what I was told right? So basically it's the super poor. They're not making a bunch of money off of it [06:14] And it's just this it's a terrible plan [06:17] But they're cracker cows from how that would be [06:23] Potentially a thing that could happen and [06:26] That it would definitely mutate into a derogatory term for [06:31] Right for poor red neck, right? Right, right, right. So that's why I thought hey, maybe this is true [06:36] But I thought maybe this this this can't be true. I got to talk to my guys [06:41] So my thinking on I guess my assumption was always somewhat liberal is that the term cracker [06:48] Came about in reference to like [06:52] Salting crackers or something like that. Just like like it's just a bland the blandest hard tack [07:00] lamest cracker thing you could possibly think of like it's got no soul. It's [07:06] Okay, so that's how I always envisioned cracker coming about but I have no idea if that's true [07:11] I I'm sure that I just made that up in like my seven-year-old brain. Well, so I I always thought that [07:19] Cracker was from the crack of the whip. Oh [07:23] Okay, and and it was like it was like the southern [07:27] You [07:28] Know wasn't necessarily that the guy in the big house, but it was the plantation manager [07:34] Who cracked and he usually wasn't as wealthy. He was just the paid guy. He was more [07:40] low-level [07:41] scum of the earth white guy [07:43] And he was the cracker. That's where I always assumed that came from [07:48] He was more and it wasn't respected of our the recent terms [07:53] We've done on unbeatable or in the Googles that is probably more likely [07:57] Yeah, but that's what I've always assumed and then you just end up with like the dumb white people from the South are crackers [08:03] Sure, not the elite white rich ones that owned the house, but it was the dumb guys that crack the whip [08:11] Hmm Joey, what do you have any? Yeah, I mean, I was kind of thinking more [08:16] Yeah along the food the food line to like the food cracker [08:21] But also like there, you know, it's I mean generally there are I guess like the saltines or you know, they're white [08:29] They're salty. They're dry [08:32] Salty white dry. I mean I that does you're checking a lot of boxes here. Exactly [08:38] Bland yes, and I feel like not challenging you but I think you eat them when you're sick [08:46] What I don't know I got I went over the edge on that one. Yeah, I think so [08:52] Is it [08:54] Do you feel like that term came about [08:57] Is it a more modern term or just go back to I [09:01] Definitely think it's late time. So in this story the story that I was told right so [09:07] the [09:09] Cracker cows would have been around and the you know, whatever 17 1800s which puts us in slave time [09:19] In huckleberry fin does [09:23] Is the term cracker used I don't think so because the thing would have been if it were in popular use in like the [09:33] Post Bellum, you know pre right? No, I'm with you [09:38] But like the thing is is like we just racial slurs for white people just aren't as offensive and they don't [09:44] They don't take the same [09:48] Meaning right like like [09:51] It doesn't have the same intensity that it would for minorities, right like [09:57] and not just not just [09:59] You know black people but you know gay people or nobody says you can't say the C word [10:05] Exactly. Exactly. They see where he's a different C word, right? [10:08] So that's the thing like you can say it all day long. And so I feel like it comes out of [10:13] that sort of [10:15] That slave time especially during sort of reconstruction and coming and just be like [10:21] I mean, I'm not saying slaves weren't saying cracker all the time [10:23] But probably you white people didn't know about the phrase cracker until after slavery [10:28] Right, like when when it's like screw you guys see all our crackers [10:32] So I don't have to get you know beat anymore or whatever [10:36] I [10:37] Don't know I'm going with [10:41] 1880s [10:42] Even though it was probably in the vernacular long before and [10:47] I'm thinking it's not about the cow. I'm thinking it's about the whip of the of the crummy [10:55] Redneck slave master [11:00] Okay, I so I'm I'm on board with that [11:08] Yeah, I think yeah I'd go with that [11:11] I'm fine with that. I don't think it's the cow [11:17] Okay, so it turns out that there was a cow. There is a cow. There's a cracker cow [11:21] I know that the Florida cracker is one of the oldest breeds of cattle in the United States [11:26] Okay, descending from Spanish cattle brought to the new world beginning in the early 1500s. So all that stuff. I was told was true [11:35] This is a Spanish Spanish cow. It was taken to Florida called a cracker cow [11:42] It looks like it Florida cracker cattle are small [11:52] acile and easier to manage by humans there there are a dwarf type of Florida crackers called guineas [12:03] Were regarded as well regarded as milk producers [12:07] Yeah, it says that they they have milk yield in comparison to other cattle [12:13] Larger cattle, but are mainly used for meat purposes as they produce good quality meat [12:19] Hmm, and they have a good longevity [12:24] Okay, so so shout out cracker cattle cracker cow [12:30] Florida cracker cattle is what shows up [12:33] and [12:35] Wilson is close, but not quite right. It does seem so according to [12:43] Code switch that's wrong. Yeah. Oh, I trust them for sure [12:49] Cracker [12:53] Was used to refer to poor whites particularly those inhabiting the frontier regions of Maryland, Virginia and Georgia [13:01] It is suspected that it was a shortened version of whip cracker [13:05] Since the manual labor they did involve driving livestock with a whip not to mention other brutal arenas where those skills were employed [13:17] Over the course of time it came to represent a person of lower cast or criminal disposition and that is from oh [13:28] Oh, but below that well, okay, so are you so what I'm seeing is that it's for [13:35] whip crackers of [13:37] Cattle not of slaves, right? So if you go below that [13:42] It says all the way back to [13:46] Shakespeare Shakespeare's age at least the age of Shakespeare [13:52] King John in the 1590s [13:58] One of the character refers to another as a CRA K ER. It's a common insult for obnoxious and below viator [14:05] Just think of somebody who is loud and rambunctious talks too much [14:14] But yeah, and so saying that the that trait was used to describe a group of [14:20] Celtic immigrants and [14:23] to the New World and [14:26] It seems like that may have stuck with them there [14:31] The governor of Florida said we don't know what to do with these crackers [14:35] We tell them to settle this area and they don't we tell them not to settle and they do [14:40] They lived off the land that they were rogues don't like that [14:45] But then those immigrants to the south [14:49] In the early 1800s started to refer to themselves that way. It's a badge of honor and a term of endearment [14:55] So the person that I met at this bar was actually probably not that far off it potentially is the [15:03] It didn't come from the cracker cow. It came from the whip of the crack but or the crack of the whip [15:09] But it also is the crack of the whip of livestock [15:13] Right in the south of poor white people. So like on some level you can see how it gets all mixed up [15:20] Well at the end of this article too, they they say in the 1940s [15:24] The term started to take another meaning in American inner cities in particular [15:29] as an epithet for bigoted white folks [15:34] So and this sounds like it was from when the people were moving from the south to the north [15:40] and [15:42] So in that sense is a more specific [15:46] Slur that seems like it's more recent. Sure if you're [15:50] If you're bigoted white, you're gonna be called a cracker, right and that seems [15:56] newer like specifically [15:58] But it comes from the south specifically, right? [16:02] But like the the meaning has altered some right and it's got this newer version more negative. Yeah [16:11] Although it sounds like people are always dumb and redneck [16:20] Of course [16:21] Well, so so where are we going with we going with that? I was told something that was sort of right [16:28] Not a complete lie [16:30] Didn't have the whole story [16:33] Yeah, it's a you didn't they didn't have the whole story right cuz they had cracker cows and they thought they had changed [16:38] they thought they'd found the [16:41] The answer to the cracker story, but it's kind of similar [16:46] It is a similar story [16:48] It is but there was another cracker sort of story in that [16:54] Code switch thing that was like, yeah, basically [16:57] you know people may have attributed it to [17:01] The cracking of the whip that drove slaves, but that wouldn't have been the case actually like of actual crackers or whatever [17:08] So you can see that look in a local area that they made their their own story themselves or whatever. Sure [17:16] Cracker cows, that's where the term cracker comes from right whereas opposed the crack of the whip on livestock or on slaves [17:23] Which is unfortunately far too similar [17:25] Gets all mixed up, too [17:27] Yeah [17:30] well [17:32] Yeah, well good. I'm you know, it's always as these things go. They're slightly grim, but we learned some stuff [17:40] Yeah, yeah [17:44] so I don't know to say it was a [17:49] No, we're not with us expect this is not the kind of question. I was expecting you thought it was gonna be saltines did not [17:56] these end with like just [17:58] Whips just whips and a lot of whips a lot of whippies [18:03] It's I guess you know what though it's like as as a as a weapon goes it is [18:09] I mean, it is not technologically advanced. It's not expensive [18:12] I mean and they can be used to inflict a lot of harm. So it's really not pleasant. Yeah [18:19] So and apparently you don't need to be rich or well trained to to use it. So [18:26] Boo boo on that [18:28] But shout out Indiana Jones [18:32] Sure