Episode 98 · June 19, 2021
Grill That Bird
The hosts ask whether heat lightning is actually a thing.
“Everybody wins.” (06:16)
Questions
Is "heat lightning" a real thing? (00:32)
Our guess
It's just regular lightning, perhaps cloud-to-cloud lightning with no thunder or storm directly overhead.
It's just regular lightning, perhaps cloud-to-cloud lightning with no thunder or storm directly overhead.
Reveal the answer
The answer
No. "Heat lightning" is ordinary lightning from a distant thunderstorm that is too far away for the thunder to be heard, and cloud-to-cloud lightning is common.
No. "Heat lightning" is ordinary lightning from a distant thunderstorm that is too far away for the thunder to be heard, and cloud-to-cloud lightning is common.
Verdict right
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] I guess it's time for the under Googles. [00:02] Oh, we doing under Googles? [00:11] That was the play of Super Excited. [00:13] You told us we had to, sir. [00:16] You said we signed up for it. [00:21] In the end, it's going to be better and more true [00:23] than Google can give you. [00:25] I'm really happy that Niko's here [00:27] because I don't feel like Harper and I are [00:29] smart enough to solve this one on our own. [00:32] This is something that came up over the summer. [00:36] I'm looking out at the sky and I see a lightning. [00:39] And I said, that's heat lightning. [00:42] And my friend said, that's not a thing. [00:46] There's no such thing as heat lightning. [00:48] There's just lightning. [00:51] And I, in my entire life, had thought [00:53] that heat lightning was a thing. [00:55] It's summer. [00:55] It's super hot. [00:57] There's some way that lightning is created differently [01:01] than regular lightning. [01:03] It happens when it's super hot and humid. [01:05] There's no rain connected to it. [01:08] There's no thunder connected to it. [01:09] There's just lightning. [01:11] And I had heard heat lightning the phrase my entire life. [01:15] And I want to know if heat lightning is a thing [01:17] or I've just been lied to my entire life. [01:22] I say it's a thing. [01:25] Well, I say it's both a thing and not a thing, right? [01:28] It's I tend to agree that lightning is lightning. [01:31] You just walked in the middle of lightning. [01:33] Lightning is lightning. [01:34] Like, I don't have a different formation process. [01:36] It has to do with the movement of electrons [01:38] from due to static electricity, presumably, right? [01:41] OK. [01:42] And so regardless of what the underlying creation [01:45] of that static is, static electricity, [01:50] and differential between positive and negative, high and low, [01:55] it's still lightning. [01:57] But it is colloquially the thing. [02:02] It's called heat lightning if there's not a storm cloud. [02:05] Yeah, but so what I've, at least what I've seen, right? [02:10] I first witnessed it in Wyoming. [02:13] And then down in Louisiana, we actually [02:18] grounded Blackhawks because of heat lightning, [02:21] is what the flight line told me. [02:23] But it was basically lightning that's [02:25] just shooting in the sky, right? [02:27] It's not hitting the ground, which is, at least to me, [02:30] the differentiation, right? [02:32] Where there's no connection to the Earth, right? [02:35] Potentially, sure. [02:36] Where it's just shooting across from cloud to cloud. [02:39] Where most thunderstorms, you have direct connection [02:43] with the ground. [02:44] At least that's what I see down in Houston, right? [02:49] But the underlying causes are still the same. [02:51] It's still static electricity, high concentration [02:56] of positive, high concentration, and negative. [02:58] I guess it's the cause of that static electricity, [03:01] is what I guess would be. [03:03] Is it more likely due to the heat [03:09] that it's in those atmospheres, right? [03:11] Versus, I don't know, that's just. [03:16] Right, is the heat lightning the misnomer, right? [03:19] Or does lightning just, is the actual heat create lightning? [03:25] Can I have lightning when it's cold, without rain? [03:32] I have thunderstorms. [03:34] No, right, without thunderstorms. [03:36] Like, there's no rain, no thunder. [03:38] Do I see lightning when it's cold? [03:40] I don't. [03:40] So is the flow of lightening? [03:43] You have lightning, you have thunder. [03:45] It's certainly less likely, right? [03:46] Because the cone of friction of friction [03:51] is going to be lower in the general atmosphere [03:54] when the temperature is colder, because there's [03:56] less kinetic energy generally, right? [03:58] OK. [03:59] Is that a thing? [04:02] It seems like a thing. [04:07] I wish we had a visual microphone. [04:09] Because work was golden. [04:14] My confusion is that my understanding [04:16] of lightning and thunderstorms had [04:17] to do with the friction between, basically, [04:20] clouds rubbing together. [04:22] I feel like that's the misunderstanding, right? [04:24] Like, are those cumulus? [04:29] They're just clouds rubbing up against each other. [04:31] Are they nimbus? [04:33] Cumulonimbus out of the thunderstorm clouds. [04:35] OK, cumulonimbus. [04:37] I think. [04:38] But aren't those two separate ones? [04:40] So those two rubbing together causes the friction? [04:43] So it's when the nimbus comes and messes with the cumulus. [04:46] Yeah, you've got to cook that dirt. [04:48] They create the. [04:50] Cook that bird. [04:50] Cook that bird. [04:51] Grill that bird. [04:52] Grill that bird. [04:53] Grill that bird. [04:53] With some lightning. [04:56] OK, Google, is heat lightning a real thing? [05:03] Completely false. [05:04] And heat lightning does not actually exist. [05:06] The flashes of light you are seeing are indeed lightning. [05:10] But the lightning from a distant thunderstorm far enough away [05:13] where the sound of thunder doesn't travel all the way [05:15] to where you're observing it from. [05:16] What? [05:20] This is weather.com. [05:21] This is AccuWeather. [05:23] AccuWeather. [05:26] So why is tail? [05:27] Also known as silent lightning, summer lightning, or dry [05:30] lightning is a misnomer. [05:35] It is clouds from distant thunderstorms [05:38] that do not appear to have accompanying sounds of thunder. [05:43] Wow. [05:46] Cloud to cloud and intra-cloud. [05:49] Yeah, intra-cloud. [05:50] Lightning charges may occur between areas of cloud [05:53] without contacting the ground. [05:54] When it occurs between two separate clouds, [05:56] it is known as inter-cloud lightning. [05:59] And when it occurs between areas of differing electric potential [06:02] within a single cloud is known as intra-cloud lightning. [06:05] Inter-cloud lightning is the most frequently occurring type. [06:08] So I guess that's what I thought the heat lightning was. [06:12] I didn't think it was like some light bouncing off the horizon [06:16] or something. [06:17] Right. [06:20] So I'll go with Nico's answer and my answer and your answer [06:24] and say, well, right. [06:25] Everybody wins. [06:27] Yeah, fuck the name. [06:28] We don't need Google. [06:30] We had this. [06:32] There's also anvil crawler lightning, [06:34] sometimes called spider lightning. [06:36] Ooh. [06:38] It's created when landers propagate [06:39] through horizontally extended charge regions [06:41] and mature thunderstorms, usually the stratiform regions [06:45] of mesoscale convective systems. [06:48] I mean, as you do. [06:49] I mean, we all learned that in grade school, right? [06:51] Right. [06:52] Yeah. [06:53] I don't know what you just said. [06:59] Coalson tuned me out at horizontally extensive, [07:02] for sure. [07:03] Wait, that's when I get excited. [07:06] I thought it was propagating. [07:08] That's what I tuned in. [07:13] Ball lightning. [07:14] Oh, maybe an atmospheric electrical phenomenon. [07:16] There may be ball lightning. [07:18] Coalson, I know what you're, I know your favorite. [07:21] Yeah, I know what kind of lightning you are. [07:24] Am I right, right? [07:25] Sympathetic lightning is the tendency [07:28] of lightning to be loosely coordinated [07:30] across long distances. [07:31] Discharges can appear in clusters [07:34] when viewed from space. [07:36] But it is sympathetic. [07:38] That's my spiritual bar crawl in a nutshell. [07:44] And you're gonna be loosely coordinated [07:46] across long distances. [07:47] That's right. [07:49] You're here. [07:50] All right, thanks for listening, everybody. [07:52] Go Blazers! [07:56] We can't close with Go Blazers. [07:58] Go Pacers! [08:00] Go Blazers! [08:01] Damn it. [08:02] He can probably do this all night. [08:04] I can. [08:07] Go Blazers! [08:11] All right, I'll take it this one time. [08:14] All right. [08:16] Buy you sympathetic lightning. [08:20] That's why you're letting me get away with this. [08:24] Because I'm leaving my discharge all over the country. [08:31] Barely not from what we heard. [08:33] I'm so glad I didn't stop recording. [08:38] You have to grill first to do that. [08:42] Oh, dear. [08:43] I'll see if I can get the grill out.