Magic of the Game

[00:00] What do you have for us for a start? What is it that you do?
[00:05] No idea what I do you say that you do I deal with the tech guys
[00:19] I communicate with Joey
[00:25] It's going well
[00:27] Yeah, cuz he has no idea what I do. So
[00:36] We do under Google rules that was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:44] We signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you under Google's
[00:55] everybody's favorite
[00:58] Podcast that's not this one
[01:04] This week pleased as punch
[01:06] I
[01:08] Don't know where that came from. We talked about punch
[01:12] But but I don't know why you'd be much bowl punch bowl. We talked about punch bowl
[01:17] But I don't know why you'd be pleased as punch. I
[01:21] Don't know when that phrase would have come about or why you would be pleased as punch
[01:26] So the punch bowl, did we decide that that went back to like pirates?
[01:31] Yeah, I think so or was it the Egyptians
[01:36] I need to listen to our show more my memory is that I had to do with like rum in the
[01:45] Caribbean or something
[01:47] Sure, I think that was I think that was my theory and ended up being wrong. That's
[01:55] We learned so much from doing this
[01:59] Maybe we should pick a different
[02:06] Doing stuff cuz it's embarrassing. I mean, let's just sign off right now
[02:10] That's true. I'm saying we could pause right now. I'll go listen to our punch bowl episode and then come back
[02:18] Oh a quick update on a previous under Google Bowl
[02:24] we did
[02:26] let's blow this popsicle stand and
[02:30] We went through it and you know Jason found some and named thing on the internet, which was a complete lie
[02:37] But I but I did listen to away with words that did
[02:44] Let's blow this popsicle stand and I think what we kind of got to but it was much more concise when they did it was
[02:52] Pop stand is a
[02:54] soda joint
[02:56] But because it was regional because when you say pop it's a regional thing instead of soda
[03:02] People and other parts of the country
[03:05] Assumed that that pop was shorting shortened for popsicle. There's no such thing as a popsicle stand
[03:11] It's just a soda joint, but it was used to be called a pop stand like in Minnesota or something like that
[03:18] So there you go
[03:20] Away with words is better at this than we are
[03:29] We were almost there but they were very much more concise they're they're PBS
[03:34] NPR whatever they are
[03:38] Publicly supportive. That's right with smart people
[03:42] The drink less than I do
[03:53] We're not doing that let's do please this punch, okay
[03:59] I
[04:00] Mean my thought was just you know, people are happy when they're drunk
[04:05] Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going to you know, there's the the the punch that's got the booze in it and
[04:12] But I mean you got to hit the the right time, you know, cuz then you know, you know people have their different levels of
[04:21] Inebriation, you know sometimes, you know, a lot of people are happy
[04:24] But then you get the the sad like sad is punch also makes sense if it's later in the night
[04:30] Belligerent is punch. That's always my favorite saying belligerent is punch
[04:34] So, yeah, so it's sort of like punch drunk on some level right or that's from getting hit in the head, right?
[04:43] That's when you're punch drunk
[04:45] Yeah. Mm-hmm
[04:48] So is this related to boxing is related to punch
[04:52] They assumed it would be I mean I'm going alcohol, okay. Yeah, I
[04:59] Usually don't ask people to please hit me
[05:02] And you're not usually that
[05:07] Happy after it happens
[05:09] Not generally. Yeah
[05:13] Well, okay, when would this come about because we've decided that punch comes from pirates or the Egyptians or Queen Elizabeth or something
[05:25] Victorian England what's Victorian England is yeah big punch time. They're big into punch. I
[05:33] Do like so if you're a pirate, okay, you're your pirate and you're you're putting
[05:39] Your citrus into your rum
[05:43] Yeah, this could be a pirate term are I'm pleased as punch
[05:51] So when were the pirates
[05:57] Because when were the pirates like I mean there still are pirates sure but the pirates were thinking of
[06:04] man
[06:07] 1600s I'm thinking like
[06:09] Probably the height of 15 1600s right height of pirates
[06:15] 1700s
[06:17] somewhere in there
[06:19] Basically when you start doing shipping, you know, so your your slave trade
[06:24] period would be 15 to
[06:27] 1700s, you know, they were picking up
[06:29] Such and take it at different places and you would think that the number of pirates would increase as the cost of
[06:35] Ships went down over time until there was really a globalized Navy
[06:41] Yeah, who's a favorite famous pirate?
[06:46] Blackbeard blackbeard when was blackbeard?
[06:51] 1700s probably. Okay. Sure captain hook
[06:57] Sorry, when was Peter bluebeard was another one right bluebeard was real right bluebeard is weird real. Yeah, sure
[07:03] Is there a bluebeard and a blackbeard? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, why are all pirates bearded?
[07:11] Time for she pirate. Yeah, I don't have to answer that question
[07:18] Is that is that like the first rule of pirates is don't talk about being a pirate I mean very clearly I mean
[07:26] You don't want to advertise them you got a you know
[07:31] Surprise them surprise who don't know for the
[07:41] So where we at yeah
[07:45] 1700s and we're just drunk off punch or drunk on punch easy peasy. All right. Oh
[07:54] Okay, well you're all wrong
[08:02] What I'm seeing here is
[08:07] It's dating from the oil partially wrong. You're wrong where it counts. How about that?
[08:12] For late 1700s, okay, we got that
[08:17] But the phrase it derived from the front of a punch and Judy puppet shows that were popular and the 17 1800s in
[08:25] Europe Oh and
[08:32] And a punch was one of the name of the puppets
[08:35] Yeah, he was one of the puppets and he was always depicted as evil and
[08:41] is
[08:44] Pretty violent it seems like yes, but he's always pleased with himself
[08:48] Yes, mental floss has the sentence punches deliciously self-satisfied with his sadism
[08:55] There we go. What a sentence. Oh
[08:58] My goodness
[09:00] so his character background apparently he has beaten his baby to death as well as his wife a
[09:08] Policeman and other characters and puppets were way different back in a day. Oh
[09:14] You know Grover also beat his baby to death you don't remember that
[09:19] Super super dark Sesame Street episode
[09:22] But his punchline no pun intended but after each murder he
[09:29] He declared that's the way to do it
[09:34] Do after murder is that where punchline comes from let's just say it is
[09:39] Maybe punches strutting pride and his awful deeds is what led to the coining of the phrase
[09:45] being pleased as punch
[09:48] Wow
[09:50] Okay, the magic of the game I
[09:53] Had no idea that that would be a thing. I didn't know that they had I knew they had puppets
[09:57] But I didn't know they had such popular puppets that
[10:00] Beat each other heard of punch and Judy. I just yeah was not aware that they were so homicidal
[10:06] Yeah, just a apparently a warning to all of Sesame Street stay away from punch. Yeah
[10:18] He is unhinged dude definitely has a rap sheet. Oh, did he kill his dog, too?
[10:26] Yeah, I think anything that he can he does killed everything but the wife
[10:31] Well, I definitely beat he beat his wife. Oh, definitely cuz that's cuz that's Judy, right? Yeah. Okay. That's the funny part. I
[10:41] Don't know what the funny part was it lost me on the funny
[10:49] The first recorded appearance of punch in England was in
[10:54] 1662 and that was because King Charles the second took the throne in 1660 and replaced Puritan
[11:02] leader Oliver Cromwell and
[11:04] Because of that the theater culture began to change
[11:08] Get rid of those Puritans and this is what happens. Apparently. I hate to say Cromwell was right, but
[11:17] Didn't take a weird turn
[11:19] Yeah, oh
[11:22] Just a update again just remind us
[11:25] punch Bowl was
[11:28] From the Indians from India coming over to England and
[11:35] the word punch is
[11:37] from Hindi
[11:38] right and
[11:40] Which means five and the drink is made from five simple ingredients a spirit sugar lemon water or tea and spices
[11:49] Now it's all coming. That's right now
[11:50] It comes back and the employees of the British East India Company brought it back to Europe
[11:56] It's not connected to well, I mean actually timeline wise, right? Couldn't they just have named named the puppet punch after that?
[12:05] so punch is short for punch anello, which is
[12:10] Apparently, this is a riff on Commedia dell'arte
[12:13] So the figure punch is derived from the Neapolitan stock character of plus plus anella
[12:19] Which was anglicized to punch enough. Yes, they were
[12:26] originally Italian
[12:27] And punch his wife was originally called Joan
[12:30] hmm, hmm, did they take the violence and the
[12:38] Hope they didn't take that from Italy too. That seems uniquely British, right?
[12:45] Maybe maybe
[12:48] The uniquely medieval
[12:51] Hmm so shout out to the Puritans for for keeping them at bay for so long, but you fell eventually
[13:00] That was weird. Yeah. Yeah, well done Coalson
[13:08] Punching Judy Oh Punching Judy
[13:12] Hmm. Well, happy Thanksgiving everybody
[13:21] Boy, yeah, the Wikipedia pages is
[13:27] It's really not helping me on this
[13:28] It's like so the the section under comedy says it's a spite punches unapologetic murders throughout the performances. It is still a comedy
[13:38] It's just like stated as fact for you, right? Yes
[13:41] We swear it's hysterical
[13:45] Yeah, cool well
[13:48] Thank you for you know, I and that's something I never I never would have known without
[13:54] In there yeah, like I said, that's the magic of the game