Too Hot to Handle

[00:00] Oh, we doing under Google rules. That was the play of super excited told us we had to
[00:12] say we said we signed up for it. In the end, it's going to be better and more true than
[00:21] Google can give you. So somebody used this phrase with me over the over the winter and
[00:29] I guess it's still winter over the holidays. And I was like, I've heard that phrase before,
[00:35] that's not that can't be a real phrase. I don't know why this is a thing. And it can't
[00:40] mean anything. And it can't have a real history. And then I thought, I should
[00:43] probably ask my friends. And maybe this is a thing. Are you familiar with the
[00:48] phrase dollars to donuts?
[00:53] I've heard that phrase. Yes, yeah, exactly. That's where I'm at too. I've heard the
[00:56] phrase dollars to donut. She said, I'll bet you dollars to donuts that this
[01:02] thing will happen or whatever. Then I was like, that's how I always hear it is
[01:06] dollars. I'll bet you dollars. Yeah, I'll bet you dollars to donuts. So what the
[01:11] heck is that about? Why is that a phrase? What does it mean? Why are dollars could
[01:16] be compared to donuts? History, backstory, go. First thing that comes to my head is
[01:26] like, if we're going to bet, I'm very confident. So I will put up dollars and
[01:34] you can put up something inexpensive. Oh, well, that's really easy. I'm glad we saw
[01:40] that. Say donuts. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it is. I don't know why. So
[01:44] we're around the break room and be like, I'll bet this
[01:48] dollars to your stupid donuts. Yeah, that makes sense. So I think the
[01:56] invention of this phrase would go back to the invention of the donut. When was
[02:01] sometime thereafter? When did we start making donuts? When did the gamblers find
[02:06] the donuts? Good question. When did we start calling? That feels like a early
[02:12] 20th century thing. I mean, don't they have like strudel type things, pastry type
[02:18] things for back for a long time? Yeah, but you know, when did we start frying
[02:24] things? That's what you need for a donut. I'm thinking that's around the
[02:33] fast food era, maybe a little bit before. A little earlier, I'm thinking. Yeah. I feel
[02:39] like people had donuts in the morning, probably in the 40s, maybe? Sure.
[02:50] No, they definitely had them in by World War II for sure. Okay. When did
[02:58] McDonald's start? In the 30s? Sure. 30s or 40s. Okay, because they had
[03:07] fryers by then. They're making french fries. Yeah. All right, so let's say donuts
[03:11] came out in the 20s. Let's just say donuts are a 20s thing. Sure. When did we
[03:15] start calling money dollars back, back in the beginning of dollars? I feel like I
[03:24] just learned why, where the term dollar came from. It's always been. I know that
[03:35] bucks, the term bucks came from exchanging animal pelts. Okay, that makes total sense to me. What was dollar?
[03:47] Okay, so this phrase comes around probably 1920s, 1930s. Well, that's when the donuts came out. And the
[04:05] dollars came out. The dollars have been there for much earlier than that. So it was really about the
[04:10] donuts. And people have been gambling as long as they've had currency. They've had something of value.
[04:18] Right. Okay, so we'll say it comes out. But I like the idea that it comes around when donuts were out
[04:26] in the in the at work. That's maybe when it would come up a coffee hour. Do you gamble a lot of stuff?
[04:33] Maybe like in the 50s. You know, they have donuts at work. Were they cheap enough finally? Right.
[04:42] Right. All those expensive donuts back in the 20s? Yeah.
[04:48] Because your donuts need to be, yeah, not worth much at that point. Right.
[04:53] Oh, yeah. I mean, a donut's going for like a nickel or less, right?
[04:59] Sure. And so if I'm giving you a dollar for a nickel donut, okay. And it's just that I'm very
[05:08] certain that I'm right. I'll bet you dollars donuts. I like it. All right. Got it figured out.
[05:15] I don't even need to Google that one. Okay. Okay. So what I'm reading dollars to donuts is one of
[05:24] several dollars to blank phrases like dollars to buttons and dollars to cub webs, which date from
[05:32] 1884 and 1904, respectively. Dollars to donuts is a pseudo betting term. This, of course, is an
[05:49] American phrase. The phrase appears to have originated in the mid 19th century. Oh, boy.
[05:57] The earliest citation I can find. This is phrases.org.uk. The daily Nevada state journal.
[06:07] Uh, from February 1876, whenever you hear any resident of a community attempting to decry the
[06:14] local paper, it's dollars to donuts that such a person is either mad at the editor or is owing
[06:21] the office for subscription or advertising. Okay. This we killed this, but now I'm concerned
[06:27] that we're way off on our donut timeline. Yeah. Well, clearly we are. When are donuts coming out?
[06:35] When's the first donut, Joey? Well, Google faster. Uh, uh, I'm saying the earliest origin
[06:49] origins of modern donuts are generally traced back to Dutch settlers. So I was thinking there
[06:55] was some sort of pastry thing. There was an 1809 book, a history of New York from the beginning
[07:04] of the world to the end of the Dutch dynasty. So they had the recipe in that history book.
[07:12] Oil cooks. Oil cakes is the Dutch term. It was a delicacy of sweetened cake fried in fat.
[07:23] Hanson Gregory claimed to have invented the ring shaped donut in 1847.
[07:28] Born a lime trading ship when he was 16 years old. This sounds like a story that
[07:35] everybody's grandpa has told them at some point. You know, I invented the donut.
[07:41] All right. So it's, it's probably 18. It's, I mean, it's Dutch, so it's, it's way before the,
[07:51] it's, it's 1700s probably. But the first stuff in New York is the 1800s in New York city.
[07:56] York city. Yep. Um, and when it would come with donut holes, uh, we don't have to answer that
[08:08] word still happening. Okay. This is a, so I mentioned World War II earlier. I was actually
[08:15] thinking of World War I, uh, national donut day, uh, is a celebrated on the first Friday of June
[08:22] each year. Uh, an event created by the salvation in 1938 to honor those of their members who
[08:30] serve donuts to soldiers during World War I. Oh, wow. Yep. Okay. So donuts have been around
[08:37] for a hot minute, but we're, we're, we're crediting the Dutch for the American style
[08:48] donut. Well, they brought over bread that they fried basically fried bread. Yeah. And then
[08:57] if you want to believe everybody lives, loves frying bread though, right? Haven't we just
[09:01] historically, we just fry everything once we can, right? Sure. If you want to be good. Yeah.
[09:07] Well, I think we learned something. Yeah. I know. It's a phrase that I hadn't heard before. You guys
[09:14] nailed it immediately. And I just was like, what's dollars to donuts mean?
[09:20] You're fans of donuts. Yeah. There's a whole section on Wikipedia about how like
[09:24] every, there's a version of a fried dough in every country. Yeah. Yeah. As well. There should
[09:30] be. And it goes through detail. All right. I feel like I learned a lot of things.
[09:38] Have you guys ever heard of a Brown Bobby? Nope. It's a triangular donut.
[09:48] Is it filled with stuff? No, just a triangular donut. Well, I feel like that's something I
[09:54] should be careful with. Made on a machine that resembles a waffle iron by the food
[10:00] display machine corporation in Chicago. Bobby Brown showed up immediately. There it is.
[10:08] Triangle donut. I know they've got the square donuts too. Where does it end, Joey?
[10:17] I mean, I think there. There are no more shapes. I mean, what about a Pentagon or no hexagon.
[10:31] That's ridiculous. That's right. You know where it stops. Yeah. Um, I just want to
[10:37] sing some Bobby Brown songs now that I don't. Are you sure? Yeah. I'd like to listen to you.
[10:43] So I don't know what to put in my brown song. I know. I'd wrap it up, Joey, before he Googles
[10:55] a Bobby Brown song. All right. I want to thank you for, uh, hanging out with this.
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[11:41] For what's always coach. Bobby Brown. No. Turn out the lights. The party's over.
[11:55] Girl, you know it's true. If it's up to us, we're gonna take control.
[12:03] I like that song. I'm trying to remember how it goes, though.
[12:07] Um, too hot to hit or too cold to hold. They call it Ghostbusters in the end of control.
[12:13] Found out about Vigo, the master of evil. Yo, we busted for real. That's all I can remember.
[12:19] That was Ghostbusters 2's soundtrack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also got to play the doorman.
[12:24] I remember very, very excited when he opened the door for the Ghostbusters.
[12:27] I, uh, yeah, I had the soundtrack on, uh, he said. If it's up to us, we're gonna take control.