Livestock Fraud Law

[00:00] We got you guys we got ready if I want I want to get out of this I'm yeah, I want to see Sharknado
[00:03] Too all right, let's get some let's get something on wax. Have you seen Avatar Joey? No
[00:14] You know, it's it's good avatar. Yeah, it's very easy. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, I saw it twice in the theaters
[00:21] Yeah, they're like Kirk Cameron movie or whatever. Yeah
[00:23] No
[00:27] Cameron I think there's tons of Jesus in it. Yeah, yeah left behind 12
[00:31] Just the one with the unobtainium. Yes. Okay, that's the dumbest thing in the world, but the rest of the movie is awesome
[00:37] Well, I mean, come on. We're not watching sure. I'm gonna go anything
[00:40] Unobobtainium is a MacGuffin and it's fine
[00:45] It's in the guffin
[00:47] What does that mean? You just put that out there like it was a thing. I don't I know what a MacGuffin is
[00:52] It's not that
[00:53] Yeah, it is
[00:55] Are you this last design?
[00:57] We haven't on Google. No, I guess you guys know what it is. Yeah, well, I'm a guffin is a well
[01:02] Apparently they don't agree on what it is. No, so maybe we should
[01:07] That this may be the best undergloom ever because we have this
[01:14] I'm a guffin. Are you gonna read me the definition of a guffin? Do you want to fight?
[01:20] The death trying to start let's fight to the death and then whoever survives will give the definition of MacGuffin
[01:37] We do under Google rules that was the play of super excited told us we had to
[01:45] We signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true than Google can give you
[01:52] Jason was this this one yours? Yeah, we're switching all the rules around. We are it's my DVD gun up is down down is up
[02:01] Dogs and cats living together. That's right. Speaking of cats
[02:05] Here's my question. We do idioms here a lot
[02:08] Let the cat out of the bag
[02:11] Mmm, who had a cat in a bag? Who why would you do bags?
[02:15] I mean, I think we all know there's a cat in a bag. They're very calm and yeah
[02:24] No, you know cats I know what they would do they would just
[02:28] You go bonkers. Absolutely. Yeah, but like I mean so then at that point when the cat bag be like a good thing to do
[02:38] Because the idiom itself means right you like it implies that you've done something that you weren't
[02:44] Let out right did cats have secrets
[02:48] What cats?
[02:49] Yes, no
[02:50] Cats definitely have secrets
[02:52] We're cats messengers prior to carrier pigeons where we run in Casserons, you know, was it something out of the beat generation was that?
[03:08] I like this question. Um, so if if the cat is in the bag
[03:14] Why is the cat getting out?
[03:17] Bad, I mean fundamentally that's a great question
[03:23] So if you were a keeper of cats
[03:26] In bags a cat keeper if you exactly then you might be sad if your cat left the bag
[03:35] Okay, right. So so perhaps that this is a phrase from the cat keepers
[03:40] Those that those that may be on the wrong path those that like cat ladies
[03:55] Point cat ladies wouldn't keep in bags. They just let them live in their house
[03:59] So my thing is this I'm thinking this is like
[04:03] 1800s. Okay. Okay. I'm thinking we got a lot of feral cats out there
[04:08] Yeah, and I'm thinking and I'm thinking like there's like the who are the the
[04:13] snake oil guys snake oil guys with their wagons and they're selling stuff, right?
[04:19] Okay, and I think that they have they keep cats feral cats around
[04:25] They they because because they have potions or whatever. Yeah, like I don't know cuz cats are
[04:32] I think you may have gone a step too far here
[04:34] But like I feel like there's just I feel like there's a traveling wagon and there's a guy with cats in his bed
[04:39] No, I think you're right about the feral cats. I mean, yeah, it is big cats, right?
[04:43] But you don't think you don't like the snake oil wagon. I don't know why
[04:49] Why snake boy has to be involved in this? Okay, but
[04:55] Violins
[04:58] Cat
[05:00] Cat guts. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh cat gets from the bow violence. Yeah the bows
[05:06] So you're so you're catching feral cats for violin strings and catching feral cats because they're dangerous
[05:14] Right. We're talking about larger cats. This is this is my idea
[05:22] Okay, okay, so let it so if the goal is let's figure out what kind of cat in a
[05:27] Bag is a good thing
[05:28] It's the kind of get hurt you and the dude who lets it out is a bad person is because that thing is dangerous
[05:35] Oh, it has to be a larger cat
[05:37] So I'm guessing
[05:39] American
[05:41] 19th century
[05:44] Frontiers front use men and they're catching pumas
[05:50] Pumas
[05:52] Nuclear
[05:54] So this is so they're they're very large sacks. I was thinking more like like a
[06:02] plastic grocery bag
[06:04] I
[06:21] This phrase is important the bag what kind of bag is is it? Yeah, what kind of cat you already made that point
[06:32] What kind of bag
[06:36] Was it a burlap sack? Okay burlap sack full of a puma
[06:41] In the 1800s
[07:02] It's not a hundred percent no we need the real answer Joey well the internet doesn't have it. Oh
[07:09] Why is under Google right the first documented use of the phrase is from mental floss
[07:17] From the sense of like revealing a secret it comes from a book review in the 1760 issue you remember this one
[07:24] of the London magazine
[07:27] Yes, yeah, we have all the smart books. I was reading that in the bathroom earlier
[07:32] It says we could have wished the author had not let the cat out of the bag, which is okay, so it's 1750
[07:46] Well so the origin that one one possibility was
[07:52] refers to the cat of nine tails
[07:56] Infamously used by the Royal Navy as an instrument of punishment aboard ships. Yeah, I believe it's a
[08:02] Whip type thing with yeah, yeah extra whippies on the end eight extra whippies. Yeah for till of nine. Yes
[08:09] Yeah, so that one they had to keep it in a bag. I guess I didn't dry out cuz it was bloody
[08:16] No, no, no because it hurts more if it's what? Oh, so
[08:20] literally, yeah
[08:22] And so it was one of the primary punishments you can you know keel hall somebody? Oh, wow
[08:29] Yeah, that was a thing that you should drag one of the ships crazy stuff. So you cat an eye
[08:34] Cat an eye and tails. Yeah, and you hit him with that
[08:39] Whip them you just whip and so when you would take that out of the bag
[08:43] I mean, that would be bad it is bad
[08:47] But the term itself kind of means like you're the one who screwed up the person who pulled that out of the bag
[08:54] would be like the guy in charge of
[08:56] Exceeding a punishment that doesn't feel very truthy. Yeah, but you can see how it would get mutated maybe over the over the years
[09:03] but if the first yeah, I suppose
[09:09] Incorrectly
[09:14] There's another another option here it could relate to livestock fraud
[09:19] Seems like when you would I'm not interested in livestock fraud law
[09:26] Exactly
[09:27] this would be something where
[09:30] You would sell a you would be selling like you have a bag of pigs you would sell somebody what piglets
[09:39] But it's something where you may say hey, I've got a bag of pigs for you sure
[09:45] You know you take your money
[09:48] Right. Well, no, it's not nine pigs. This is maybe nine cats. Oh, they just hand them a bag
[09:56] You would say
[10:01] It's it's another idiom which I'm sure you guys are all familiar with of windy proffer the pigs open the poke
[10:11] Oh, no, sorry, I said when you proffer the piggy
[10:15] Open the hook I was gonna correct you
[10:27] Lot of people are just buying bags that
[10:30] People said here's the bag of pigs and they're like cool and they just like give them money and then walked away
[10:35] Yeah, and then it would be a bag of cats. There's a Spanish equivalent to the phrase that we're got to pour Lee, e-brae
[10:41] Which I actually I think that means
[10:46] The cat is from the library
[10:53] Giving a cat instead of a hair
[10:57] Libre means free just right or library. Okay
[11:03] Bibliotheca, I know I know in Scarface when they were like Libra Todd
[11:11] At the camp in Scarface loves loves those libraries
[11:17] Bibliotheca
[11:18] Yes
[11:20] So I think we're not a hundred percent sure but it seems to be one of those two
[11:25] I like the the chip thing better than the than the bag of pigs and that's more true. Yeah
[11:33] The torture thing
[11:37] Counter cuz I like the livestock thing better because it has two different origins
[11:43] It has an English one in it
[11:46] Logic needs torture. Yeah, who will win?
[11:49] No, okay. If this
[11:52] No, if the Spanish say it's true, I believe them. Okay, they're great people this man. Do you know the Spanish disagree with the other one?
[12:00] We have a nation of origin on the
[12:04] Well, no, the first printed thing was it was 1750 right 60 1760
[12:15] Was that in Spanish though, no
[12:22] We don't have a date yeah if the Spanish didn't write it down it's not true
[12:26] Ergo Falls if they didn't record on a pot it didn't happen. He said Ergo
[12:31] I don't know that anything else that has a white man. Like it's gotten you so many continents over the years. I
[12:38] Said ergo sir
[12:40] Think that about wraps it up. I don't know sir. I think that about wraps it up