Episode 25 · January 25, 2020
Era of Exposed Ankles
The hosts try to figure out where "having a crush" comes from, with answers ranging from Shakespeare to the Gershwins.
“Somebody asked me to build a laptop tomorrow. I just lie down on the floor in a fetal position.” (07:15)
Questions
Where does the phrase "having a crush" come from? (01:37)
Our guess
Shakespeare or the 1920s-1950s, from an unrequited feeling that leaves you crushed.
Shakespeare or the 1920s-1950s, from an unrequited feeling that leaves you crushed.
Reveal the answer
The answer
The romantic sense is first recorded in an 1884 journal and may be a variation on "mash". It was American slang around 1914 and was popularized by the Gershwins' 1920s song "I've Got a Crush on You". An older meaning of "crush" was a social gathering.
The romantic sense is first recorded in an 1884 journal and may be a variation on "mash". It was American slang around 1914 and was popularized by the Gershwins' 1920s song "I've Got a Crush on You". An older meaning of "crush" was a social gathering.
Verdict partly
Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] All right, I think it's time for another segment of The Undegoogleables. [00:11] Oh, we doing Undegoogleables. That was the play. I'm super excited. [00:16] I told us we had to. [00:19] We signed up for it. In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you. [00:29] Jason, what do you got for us this week? [00:32] Well, we got a special Undegoogleables for new fans of the show. [00:37] We're now on Dash Radio, so shout out to Dash Radio. [00:41] What we do is we do a segment where listeners tweet in a question that they may have Googled. [00:50] You know, you're at a bar and you are having a bar conversation. [00:54] You come up with a phrase or whatever. What does this mean kind of thing? [00:58] You would have Googled it. Instead of Googling it, what we want you to do is send it into us [01:04] and then we will act like Google. We'll just use our collective brain power, [01:08] because we're all smart guys, to deduce what the answer is. [01:16] What we do is we double check our clearly accurate deduction with Google and tell you [01:22] the actual answer. This week, our submission comes in from a person near and dear to my heart, [01:29] my sister, Erin Triplett. A quick sidebar shout out to, she has a podcast called [01:37] Falling in Love with Trippin' Brick. If you're a fan of romantic comedies, subscribe to that. [01:44] But her question, I'm guessing related to romantic comedies, is where does the phrase [01:52] is having a crush originate from? You guys have any thoughts on this? Her guess is falconry, [02:02] which is where most phrases come from. Yeah, I was thinking it was probably middle ages. [02:07] You know, you have a crush on a guy or a gal and you're royalty and it's not reciprocated, [02:13] so you crush them with a big rock. I think that much is clear. [02:19] But we're more civil these days, so the crushy survives. [02:24] Generally. Well, most of the time. [02:28] I was thinking like, you know, all of us, you know, we're like a beer or two here and there, [02:35] and you know, you finish it up and you just crush the beer can and throw it away. But we love our [02:41] beer, so we crush them. I think that's a different meaning with a crush. Okay, okay. [02:47] I was thinking that the the so one one has a crush on someone else, but often those are unrequited. [02:59] So you really like someone, but they don't like you back. So you are crushed. [03:04] Internally. So it's not low to you. So this is not falconry. It's probably Shakespeare. [03:10] It's definitely Shakespeare. For sure. Are there any other ways in which this could have [03:17] originated? Like, is this when do we think so? Okay, so we think it's Shakespeare. Is there a chance [03:22] that it originated later than that? Like, like, was this like a flapper term or something like that? [03:29] In the 20s. It seems like a yeah, I mean, it could usually be like a 50s thing. [03:40] Okay, I think this has to do with maybe the era of exposed ankles. [03:45] Yeah. So you think, Jason, that it might be the crush, like a crush is [03:54] basically an unrequited feeling and you feel bad afterwards. Right. You're crushed. Okay. [04:01] I like that. Did we do we like that? And we think it's Shakespeare. We think it's [04:05] it's either Shakespeare or the 1950s. Yeah. [04:07] But potentially, potentially like a David Bowie song. I'm not sure. [04:20] Okay, according to English Stack Exchange, the romantic sense of crush was first recorded [04:28] in the 1884 journal of Isabella Maud written house crush might have been a variation on mash. [04:35] Since by 1870, mashed was a popular way of saying flirtatious or head over heels in love. [04:42] And to crush something was to mash it. Interesting. According to phrases.org.uk. [04:53] Uh, the euphemism originated in the United States as a slang term about 1914. [04:58] So I was not far off with my flapper's guess. It was institutionalized by the popular song [05:05] of the 20s written by the Gershwin's. George and I read that is in case you were confused, [05:10] which current I've got a crush on you, sweetie pie. So, so what do we think? [05:21] Those are widely varying accounts of the origin of the phrase. [05:24] I don't know, it seems, it seems like maybe that was one of those terms that probably ran [05:32] around and slang for a long time before it was really ever codified anywhere usefully. So [05:38] I probably like the one that you brought up earlier, the article a little bit later in that [05:43] one. They described mash as a regarded as a spoon fed diet. It's supposed to be feed somebody [05:52] but, um, but they, they also, uh, called it drew a link to the word spoony. And if you were [05:58] spooning on someone, um, since the 1820s meant to be foolishly or a sentimentally amorous. Um, [06:07] but I liked that. I liked that, uh, you know, you might be able to be spooning on somebody. [06:11] Yeah, for sure. I'm going to, we're bringing it back. [06:14] Yeah. So here's a third one. So, uh, according to etim online, uh, [06:27] there was a term, an older usage of crush, which is now obsolete for a social gathering, [06:33] such as a dance or reception. I fell in with her at Lady Gray's crush from a 18, a letter in 1832. [06:43] Maybe it's all those things that was kind of an under Google. Yeah, it kind of was. [06:49] It's still, it's still baffles me. Like that we are, that there's so many phrases that all of us [06:54] use that we have no idea what the origins are. Uh, and they don't make sense when you [06:59] speak about them literally. Well, whatever, like 90% of the crap I use in a day, I would have no [07:05] ability to say how it works or how to build one. So that's fair fact that my language [07:10] is also like that is not that surprising to me. Somebody asked me to build a laptop tomorrow. [07:15] I just, yeah, I just lie down the floor in a fetal position. [07:22] Well, we've all been there this playoff season. Save that for sure.