Early to Bed, Early to Rise

[00:00] Hey, real quick, this is ... speaking of being out of shape, I forgot to mention this at the
[00:06] top of either of the two shows this week, but we are doing ... at least Chase and I
[00:13] are hoping to get Coalson on board. We're doing the Drumstick Dash on Thanksgiving Day morning,
[00:21] and the Undebeatables have a team. It's a short ... it's a 2.75 or 4-5 mile race, but
[00:29] it is a benefit for Wheeler Mission. It's, I think, the biggest fundraiser for the year,
[00:35] so that gives them a lot of their operating money. It's for good cause, so you can join
[00:40] our team, and we're not going to be competing real hard, but it's more just to go out and
[00:45] have fun, and to raise some money for a good thing. So, check our social medias for the
[00:53] link to our team, and if you don't want to join our team, you know, you just join.
[00:58] Then suck it. You're saying you're not competing very hard, but you don't know if Jason's coming
[01:04] or not. No, he'll be there. He'll be there. I'm hoping Coalson will be there. No, I'm
[01:09] going to be in Denver. Sorry. Well, good. There's another option for people like ... Fleeing
[01:13] the State. There's people who won't be able to make it. You can actually just donate through
[01:19] the same page. Give money. For Go, you're ... Can I sponsor you guys? Yep. Is that a thing?
[01:26] Absolutely. Do you have to win for the payout sort of thing? It's a lottery. No payouts.
[01:38] So, we'll be doing that this year. This is why Coalson's not allowed to run
[01:41] not-for-profit. But how do I win, though? That's right. So, wait. This money is going
[01:50] to Wheeler Mission, but how do I win? How do I get out of it? Fantastic. You can redeem yourself,
[02:02] Coalson. It's time for an under-Google Bowl. Oh, are we doing under-Google Bowls? That was
[02:14] the play of Super Excited. Who told us we had to, sir? He said we signed up for it.
[02:23] In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you.
[02:29] What do you got first this week? I grew up in Indiana, as did the three of you.
[02:37] When I went up to college with Harper, I remember my mind was blown when they changed the
[02:42] time. I did not compute. I didn't know if I was supposed to fall forward and leap back or
[02:49] whatever. We just had daylight savings time the other day, just today, actually.
[02:57] Hey, what's the deal with daylight saving time? Can I get a little history? Do we
[03:01] know when it started? Do we know what it's for? What do we got? Good question.
[03:09] It's for the sake of confusion. This is primary purpose.
[03:15] I think it was started by Benjamin Franklin,
[03:21] he was being supported by the farmers. The farmers didn't want to, they are very bound
[03:28] to their alarm clocks. If the sun started rising earlier, they'd start their day earlier,
[03:34] they had to change their clocks instead of just getting up.
[03:37] Well, probably, Ben Franklin had stock in these alarm clock companies, right?
[03:40] Yeah, it's definitely what happened. Yeah, it's a good call.
[03:43] It's a money grab. It's a money grab.
[03:45] Follow the money, yes. Follow the money.
[03:48] You spoke with authority. Do you know something about this? Do you feel like Benjamin Franklin
[03:53] is the initiator? No, I vaguely remember this being his idea. But I've also heard
[04:02] things about how the farmers, they need to change the clock so the farmers can
[04:10] get up at the right time. But I always just thought that was dumb. Just get up earlier.
[04:15] You don't need to change up my clock. Just get up at, if you need to get up at six o'clock.
[04:18] Just get up when you need to get up. Yeah, you don't need to change your clock
[04:22] to figure it out. Just to get up on the city clock.
[04:23] You want to get up at 5.30? Just get up at 5.30.
[04:27] Well, so the only thing that I know for sure, because like I said,
[04:30] I spent my entire life not really knowing about this, is that it was right after I moved out of
[04:37] India. 2005, 2006, Indiana went to actually time change. Actually went to Daylight Saving Time.
[04:49] They had the choice to go with Central Standard Time or with Eastern Standard Time,
[04:55] and they went with New York to piss off Chicago. That's the only thing I know.
[05:00] I'm not sure why Indiana had a choice. I assume that it's because
[05:04] it's not a federal law to follow Daylight Saving Time.
[05:10] Well, clearly it's not, right? We grew up and we didn't have to observe it, right?
[05:14] But there is interestingly, until like the 60s, there was no, I guess, obligatory
[05:22] observance of Daylight Saving Time or something like that, or really standardized time.
[05:30] So could you just do it whenever?
[05:33] Yeah, exactly. So there would be, you know, within the same building, you could go from floor to
[05:38] floor and it would be five o'clock on one floor and six o'clock on another floor.
[05:42] It was just confusion. And then Lyndon Johnson signed some bill in the 60s that said like,
[05:48] look, if you're residing in the bounds of a state, you have to abide by that state's like,
[05:55] whatever. That was in the 60s?
[05:57] Codified time. Yeah, it was in the 60s.
[05:59] Wow. But that's, I mean, that's interesting because there's still
[06:01] our small sample sets in places. Like before we went to Daylight Savings Time in
[06:06] Southwestern Indiana near Louisville, they had fast time, slow time, right?
[06:13] Because our time wasn't changing and Kentucky was on Daylight Savings, right?
[06:20] So if you were in a county that was near there, you had it, but if you cross that
[06:24] a county line, then you would no longer have Daylight Savings. So it's not even a state law,
[06:30] right? It's apparently codified by counties. And I think there's still a place in Arizona or
[06:34] something where that happens.
[06:35] Yeah, there's something I read in this article that was like, if you took a,
[06:38] you could take a one hour drive from somewhere in Ohio to somewhere in West Virginia,
[06:44] and you would cross seven times, or the time would change seven times.
[06:51] So I do remember during when, when, when India had gone, I think Mitch Daniels was the
[06:57] governor at the time. And I think just to get the, get the Hoosiers ready for this,
[07:03] to get it done the way he wanted to do it. He let the counties choose in Indiana when we went to it.
[07:11] But it was, it was the decisions that were poor enough that the federal government did,
[07:16] they did get involved because it was, because they were choosing, like it was totally haphazard.
[07:21] Yeah, it was exactly. It was like one, you know, it basically would alternate counties
[07:25] between time zones. And so, you know, we're not, we're not doing that. Like I do understand,
[07:30] like Harper, you said like down by Louisville, they can be on Louisville time,
[07:35] cities or counties near Chicago. Chicago there. I get it. But you can't just do it however you want.
[07:45] So I agree with Joey. I do remember something about Ben Franklin in this mix. Certainly think
[07:52] that there's something to do with farmers. Benjamin Franklin used to have that Almanac thing.
[07:56] That was like his big printing press thing. Like he's the farmer's Almanac guy. So I, you know,
[08:02] I'm with all that. What strange, what strange to me though, about the lack of consistency though,
[08:09] is I, I thought that there was probably also some aspect of train travel involved because
[08:17] we didn't have standard time at all until we had to run trains really.
[08:20] Yeah. So that's two different things. The standard time
[08:23] yeah, came about because of trains basically. So because you could within the same town,
[08:30] it could be like 1205 in one building and 1235 in another building or something. Really? Yes.
[08:37] There were, yeah, there was no standard time until like the 1850s or something like that.
[08:43] Okay. It was later than you wanted it to be.
[08:47] I'm real nervous now. And so then people had to catch trains. So then they
[08:51] had to set up standard time and time zones, I believe, but I don't,
[08:55] I don't think daylight saving time was enacted until like the early 20th century is what I was.
[09:01] Okay. So I was, so you've got the thing on the sixties. I was thinking like,
[09:06] this is like a Mayan thing or like some Aztec or like, you know, like some sort of like,
[09:11] they wouldn't, the Mayans would never come up with anything this insane.
[09:17] No, I just feel like somebody was like, all right, it's getting
[09:20] dark earlier. Let's change our time. Well, you need, I feel like you need time.
[09:24] It's an idea that's been around for a long time.
[09:26] You need an actual time piece in order to set the time. And the Mayans never had time pieces.
[09:31] All right. Yeah. Time is a construct. Like, no, I understand this construct,
[09:35] but people kept time. Like, like, I mean, at some point you've got to be like,
[09:38] so not in the sense that you do though. Right. Well, no, in fact, I understand that.
[09:44] In fact, I would not be late anymore if we didn't have time, which would be nice,
[09:48] but I feel like at some point, somebody started to come up with time, right?
[09:52] Who's the first people to come up with like standardized or not standardized time,
[09:55] but like time pieces, right? Like, like, oh God, time piece soonness, but so, okay.
[10:01] So daylight saving time, according to Wikipedia, some dude named George Hudson proposed the idea
[10:08] in 1895. So this has been frankly, I think it's a myth. Yeah. 1895.
[10:15] The German empire and Austria-Hungary organized the first nationwide implementation starting on
[10:22] April 30th, 1916. So daylight savings time has used it at various times.
[10:27] Social and so we need to drop it immediately. No, that's the 1916. And my, if I'm right,
[10:33] that's war, World War One, right? So that's, that's basically to organize war.
[10:41] Yeah. It's an energy savings thing. Yeah. It's an energy savings thing.
[10:44] For war?
[10:48] No, I mean, the idea was just generally, I think, right? Okay. All right.
[10:55] I don't know. Certainly during war time, you get a little bit more
[10:58] cognizant of these things. Yeah. What we used to.
[11:05] So 1916, the Germans, huh? Or, but you're giving it some, what was the 1880 guy? What was his name?
[11:16] George Hudson. Okay. So, uh, to get your time pieces thing, Romans kept time with water clocks.
[11:26] So they probably did daylight savings then.
[11:33] Well, they had different. It was George M. S. Hudsonius had the idea in, uh,
[11:39] AD 130. So in 1942, at the height of World War II, uh, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, uh, reintroduced the
[11:49] measure of daylight savings time in the United States. Okay. So here's your Ben Franklin. He,
[11:56] he liked, uh, early to bed, early to rise, makes him unhealthy, wealthy and wise. Uh, and he, uh,
[12:03] suggested that Parisians economize candles by waking up earlier to use more morning sunlight.
[12:13] So that's sort of maybe the idea. All right. So it looks like the Germans were the first ones to
[12:23] use it as a country. And it looks like FDR implemented it during World War II. And then
[12:30] the uniform time act of 1966, which is what you were talking about. Yep. Um, because basically
[12:38] there was no uniform rules about daylight savings time in the U S from 1945 to 1966 to figure out
[12:45] how to tell time. All right. Well, my goodness, it took us till the sixties to figure out how
[12:54] to tell time. Hmm. And it might be Benjamin Franklin's idea, but, uh, it also seems like
[13:02] the Germans are really good at telling time. It turns out, so the Romans probably had, uh,
[13:07] water clocks that, uh, that they changed. Okay. Uh, tidbit based on, uh, since we were talking
[13:19] about Indiana. So a 2008 study examined billing data in Indiana before and after it adopted
[13:26] daylight saving time in 2006 and concluded that daylight saving time increased overall
[13:32] residential electricity consumption by one to 4% do mostly to after extra afternoon cooling
[13:40] and extra morning heating. Hmm. And what's more is to my understanding,
[13:47] daylight savings time also creates, uh, absenteeism at work. So it's actually,
[13:54] it's actually a huge, uh, money suck at the end of the day. Wow. Interesting. Uh, oh, uh,
[14:01] real quickly. Uh, even though the Germans were the first to use it a country wide, uh, little
[14:07] known fact, the Canadians invented it in 1908, the residents of Port Arthur, Ontario turn their
[14:15] clocks forward by one hour to start the world's first daylight standard time. Yeah. And in true
[14:21] American fashion, I'm just going to edit that right out of the pod. Yes. Oh no. Oh my God. Sorry.
[14:32] I've got to stop the show. Oh my God. Ancient civilizations are known to have engaged in
[14:39] comparable practices thousands of years ago. For example, the Roman water clocks use different
[14:44] scales for different months of the year to adjust the, to solar time.
[14:52] But that's not daylight. I don't understand why that's just them being smart about the fact
[14:56] that the sun rises and sets at different times that they knew the earth was round,
[15:01] which proves that they're more advanced than our current civilization.
[15:05] That's all that does. They understood that the length of days changed. All right. Fair enough.
[15:12] But has anyone ever seen a real picture of the earth? I don't think so.
[15:16] Not a real one. There was, if you haven't seen Charlie's flat earth picture
[15:23] for his fantasy team, you should check it out immediately. It's super awesome.
[15:29] There was a great, uh, gag on, uh, way, way, don't tell me. And they said,
[15:32] if the world was flat, there would just be cats on the edge knocking stuff off.
[15:35] Well, yeah, that's cause they had, that's cause they had Scott,
[15:38] commander Scott Kelly on who is, yeah. And he was totally like, dude,
[15:44] if the world was flat, that'd be like the most awesome place to go.
[15:46] Everybody would go there. I'd build a house there.
[15:50] Be sweet. Great. Kind of shuts down the argument, doesn't it?
[15:55] I mean, only if you think that, you know, commander Scott Kelly isn't, uh, you know,
[16:00] total liar. And if there's one thing we know about astronauts and engineers,
[16:07] world edge property, it seems like a pretty good argument.
[16:10] I'm going to start that company.
[16:15] All right, guys, I think there's about time to get going.
[16:19] All this, uh, time and space geography.
[16:28] Change the water clocks for solar time.
[16:30] Yep. Yep. We are done.