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Episode 5 · September 7, 2019

Massive and Complex

A listener asks for the tallest mountain in the contiguous 48 states and how much shorter it is than the tallest in Alaska. The hosts reason their way to a surprisingly close answer.

“We might be un-educating America.” (10:36)

Questions

What is the tallest mountain in the contiguous US, and how much shorter is it than the tallest mountain in Alaska? (00:43)

Our guess
Mount Massive or Mount Evans in Colorado at about 14.8k ft, with Denali near 20k ft and a gap of at least 5,000 ft.
Reveal the answer
The answer
Mount Whitney in California at about 14.5k ft. Denali is 20,310 ft, so the gap is roughly 5,500 ft. Mount Massive is third highest outside Alaska, and Hawaii's Mauna Kea (13,803 ft) is lower.
Verdict partly

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Transcript (auto-generated)
[00:00] But yes, it is time for everyone's favorite segment, game show, whatever it is, it's lighting
[00:08] the internet on fire.
[00:11] The Undo Googles.
[00:12] We do an Undo Googles.
[00:13] That was the play of Super Excited.
[00:14] I told us we had to.
[00:27] So we signed up for it.
[00:28] In the end, it's going to be better and more true than Google can give you.
[00:43] I thought the internet got lit on fire, so we're playing Undo Googles.
[00:47] Oh, right.
[00:49] That's why.
[00:50] Because there's no internet.
[00:51] Oh, okay.
[00:52] But then you couldn't hear our podcast because we are through the internet.
[00:55] It's confusing.
[00:59] So shout out this week to Erin Triplett, who sent in this Undo Googles question.
[01:07] Shout out.
[01:09] She asked, what's the tallest mountain in the United States, the contiguous 48 states, the
[01:17] United States?
[01:18] So the tallest mountain, not in Alaska.
[01:24] For me, I need to start this by saying all of the tallest mountains are in Alaska, right?
[01:31] Hawaii might have one as tall as the contiguous 48.
[01:35] What did they rename Denali?
[01:37] Didn't they rename it?
[01:39] That was the rename.
[01:40] Oh, that was the rename?
[01:41] Kenley.
[01:42] That's right.
[01:43] Well, it was originally Denali, and then we renamed it McKinley.
[01:47] And then Obama did it right and renamed it Denali.
[01:52] Okay.
[01:53] So that's the tallest mountain in the United States.
[01:57] So this question is, what's the tallest mountain outside of Alaska in the contiguous 48 states?
[02:03] So I guess not Hawaii either.
[02:05] And how much shorter is it than the next tallest mountain that is in Alaska?
[02:12] So that's a tough question.
[02:15] So basically-
[02:16] Very specific question.
[02:18] So basically, we need to find the smallest mountain in Alaska, and then the tallest mountain
[02:24] in-
[02:25] Well, a mountain is, by definition, 2,000 vertical feet.
[02:29] So-
[02:31] Is that right?
[02:32] I didn't know that was the definition.
[02:33] I do.
[02:35] I'm pretty sure that's the thing.
[02:36] You did not know that.
[02:38] Okay.
[02:39] If we know Denali-
[02:40] Well, how tall is Denali?
[02:41] Does anybody know?
[02:42] It's like-
[02:43] It's like 18,000 feet or something.
[02:44] Yeah.
[02:45] Yeah.
[02:46] Or maybe it's taller than that.
[02:47] Maybe closer to 20.
[02:48] It's taller than that.
[02:49] Okay.
[02:50] And so here's my only knowledge, because I'm not going to be able to offer much on this
[02:53] at all, except that I lived in Colorado.
[02:56] You lived in Colorado.
[02:57] You lived in the mountains.
[02:58] Well, no.
[02:59] No, that's what I'm saying.
[03:00] Well, no.
[03:01] And I was going to give you my living experience.
[03:03] I don't know the name of a lot of tall mountains.
[03:04] Did you ever look up at any mountains?
[03:05] The Fourteeners is a big deal, right?
[03:08] Right.
[03:09] So have you hiked a Fourteener?
[03:11] Fourteeners are kind of the max of what's out there in Colorado.
[03:15] In the West.
[03:16] So there's a ton of them, but I don't think there's a mountain taller than 14,000 feet
[03:22] in the Rocky Mountains.
[03:23] I don't believe so.
[03:25] So that's my baseline of knowledge.
[03:28] Wait, there's a 14,000 foot mountain in Colorado?
[03:31] No, I think there are a few Fourteeners in Colorado.
[03:35] No, there's a ton of Fourteeners.
[03:36] Okay, right.
[03:37] Yeah, yeah.
[03:38] What I'm saying is I don't think there's any Fifteeners.
[03:40] No, I agree.
[03:41] I totally agree.
[03:42] Yes.
[03:43] And I know names of a couple really tall mountains.
[03:46] The tallest I know, there was Mount Massive, Mount Evans.
[03:51] Mount Massive has my vote.
[03:56] Mount Massive and Mount Evans are the two that pop into my head as mountains that were
[04:00] mentioned as tall mountains.
[04:01] So that's all I have.
[04:04] In Pike's Peak, it seems like a famous thing.
[04:08] Sure.
[04:09] Is that a 14 footer?
[04:11] It is a Fourteener.
[04:13] It's a Fourteener, but I don't think it's bigger than Evans or Massive.
[04:19] Okay.
[04:21] I'm assuming that all of these things must be relative to sea level and not some other
[04:25] baseline metric, right?
[04:26] Yes, correct.
[04:28] Okay.
[04:29] Yeah.
[04:30] Yeah.
[04:31] And sea level like 20 years ago before it started like all the way up, you know.
[04:35] Gotcha.
[04:36] So, okay.
[04:37] So we're saying Denali is like 18 and we're saying that there are mountains.
[04:42] I think it might be 20.
[04:43] 20?
[04:44] Okay.
[04:45] So we're saying it's 20.
[04:46] So Denali is like 20.
[04:47] Let's go 20.
[04:48] Yeah.
[04:49] I like 20.
[04:50] What's the tallest?
[04:51] Is Everest or K2?
[04:52] I never get...
[04:53] Well, it's definitely not K2.
[04:55] I think it's Everest.
[04:57] It's Everest.
[04:58] It's Everest by most metrics.
[04:59] And I think the other one might be Kilimanjaro.
[05:02] Oh, really?
[05:04] But it all depends on how you measure it.
[05:07] I think Everest is generally considered the tallest.
[05:10] And it's like 27K.
[05:12] 27 plus.
[05:13] Something like that.
[05:14] Right?
[05:15] Yeah.
[05:16] Okay.
[05:17] Yeah.
[05:18] So Himalayas, there's a ton of tall mountains.
[05:21] Everest is tallest.
[05:23] We're going to Alaska.
[05:24] We got 20,000 feet.
[05:27] I didn't even know we had any 15,000 footers here, so...
[05:30] No, like I said, I don't think we do.
[05:32] I don't think we do.
[05:33] I think those ones in the Colorado's are the highest in the...
[05:36] I think they are.
[05:37] I think the Rockies have the tallest outside of Alaska.
[05:39] It's definitely not going to be Appalachia.
[05:41] The only other thing in contest would be the Sierra Nevadas.
[05:44] And I think they're out.
[05:46] Great.
[05:47] Yeah.
[05:48] No, I'm going Rockies.
[05:49] And I'm going it's somewhere like 14...
[05:51] Let's say like 14.8.
[05:53] And I don't know the name of it.
[05:54] Because I'm going Mount Massive or Mount Evans.
[05:58] And it's going to be like 14.8.
[06:00] So now I've got to decide what the...
[06:03] What the...
[06:04] I do want to say that...
[06:06] Alaska mountains.
[06:07] For some reason, in my head, it seems that the tallest mountain in the contiguous United States is in California.
[06:13] Ooh.
[06:14] Ooh.
[06:15] Okay.
[06:16] Okay.
[06:17] I'm all right with this.
[06:18] What would that be?
[06:19] I don't know what it would be.
[06:20] It's in the Sierras.
[06:21] Mount Sierra Nevada.
[06:22] Right.
[06:23] Mount Lagunitas.
[06:27] Mount Lagunitas.
[06:28] We're just naming breweries at this point.
[06:34] That's how this game began.
[06:35] It's only fit.
[06:36] I'm going to give a shout out.
[06:37] I'm drinking a...
[06:39] Well, we're talking about mountains.
[06:40] And I'm drinking a beer from mountain country.
[06:43] From Great Divide Brewing in Denver, Colorado.
[06:47] It's an Oak Age Yeti Imperial Stout.
[06:52] Which is massive and complex.
[06:54] So it's just good.
[06:55] I think it's perfect.
[06:56] I think that's a hint.
[06:57] And it's super tasty to my palate.
[07:00] Is it massive and complex to your palate?
[07:03] Yeah.
[07:04] Oh, yeah.
[07:05] And it's like 9.5% alcohol.
[07:08] Nice.
[07:09] So we need to end up...
[07:10] That's the massive part.
[07:11] Exactly.
[07:13] So let's wrap this under Googables.
[07:15] I'm going to grab the rest.
[07:19] I'm voting with my limited knowledge here for Mount Massive.
[07:22] I also like Mount Massive,
[07:25] but I don't actually think it's the right answer.
[07:27] It's just the right answer for under Googables.
[07:30] And it's based on actual some limited knowledge.
[07:34] We have...
[07:35] And a beer bottle.
[07:37] And a beer bottle, right.
[07:39] And how much shorter is it than the next tallest mountain
[07:42] that is in Alaska?
[07:43] Which is complicated.
[07:45] Well, I'm going to say it's...
[07:46] Well, let's just say how much shorter is it
[07:49] than the tallest in Alaska.
[07:51] Yeah, that's the...
[07:52] Because there's going to be peaks in Alaska
[07:54] that just keep going down and down.
[07:55] So we're saying Denali is 20,000 feet
[07:59] and then we're going to say that Mount Massive
[08:01] is like 14.8 and it's like a 5,000 difference.
[08:05] Sure.
[08:06] I'll go greater than but at least 5,000.
[08:09] Greater than 5,000.
[08:10] Yeah.
[08:11] All right, I like it.
[08:12] All right, so let's Google this, chef.
[08:14] All right, Denali is 20,000, 310.
[08:18] Look at us.
[08:19] Nailed it.
[08:20] Bang.
[08:21] And then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
[08:27] Okay, Mount Whitney is number 11.
[08:30] That's California, right?
[08:32] I should have known that.
[08:33] Yeah.
[08:34] And it is 14.5.
[08:36] Okay.
[08:37] Is that California?
[08:38] Mm-hmm.
[08:39] Yes, sir.
[08:40] Yeah.
[08:41] You know, you said that and I had an inkling
[08:43] that it was right, but I had nothing to back it up with.
[08:46] Yeah.
[08:47] I have never heard of Mount Whitney before this moment,
[08:49] but nice work.
[08:51] All right, and then we've got Mount Elbert,
[08:53] which is Colorado, and Mount Massive right after that.
[08:57] Hey, not too bad.
[08:58] Okay, so we were right there.
[08:59] Not bad.
[09:00] And then where's Mount Evans?
[09:01] And then Mount Harvard.
[09:03] Yeah, Mount Evans is down like 15 from there.
[09:07] Mount Evans is 14.264.
[09:10] Oh, and Mount Rainier.
[09:11] We should have thrown that one out.
[09:13] Oh, yeah.
[09:14] Pike's Peak is number 39, but at 14, 1, 1, 5.
[09:18] I mean, there's 400 feet that separate it.
[09:20] Yeah, right.
[09:22] All right, so Mount Whitney was the answer.
[09:25] There's a bunch of Ivy Leagues.
[09:27] There's like Mount Yale, Mount Princeton, Mount Harvard.
[09:31] That's weird.
[09:33] Kyle has hiked Mount Lincoln, and there's like four of them
[09:39] that she did, Mount Princeton.
[09:41] It was a bunch of the Ivy Leagues.
[09:43] Wow.
[09:44] All right, so Mount Whitney was the answer.
[09:47] Mount Massive was the third highest outside of Alaska,
[09:51] so we're sort of close.
[09:53] And we nailed the difference.
[09:55] It's like 5,500 feet.
[09:58] All right, we're not that much dumber than Google.
[10:01] I'm seeing a Mauna Kea as the highest in Hawaii
[10:05] at 13,803 feet.
[10:09] Okay.
[10:10] So Hawaii is not higher than the Rockies
[10:13] or the Sierra Nevadas.
[10:15] Right, and Mauna Loa would be the next one.
[10:18] Mauna.
[10:19] How do you say that?
[10:20] It's M-A-U-N-A.
[10:22] I think it's Mauna.
[10:23] Mauna, yeah, that's right.
[10:25] Because you say every vowel in Hawaiian, right?
[10:28] Yeah, okay.
[10:30] We learned so much.
[10:31] Nice.
[10:32] Good work, guys.
[10:34] That's what we like about the Unaguguals.
[10:36] The educational part, the part of the pod,
[10:39] the rest of this is just trash, but sometimes you'll...
[10:42] Well, I mean, the funny part is,
[10:44] there's probably an equal chance that people will remember
[10:47] all the wrong stuff that we said,
[10:49] to the right stuff we said.
[10:51] We might be un-educating America.
[10:53] Oh, it's fine.
[10:54] We live in a post-fact world,
[10:57] so it doesn't really matter.
[10:58] I was proud of this.
[11:00] It was also, it was like the jumping through Neptune thing.
[11:05] Sometimes we have knowledge, I like it.
[11:07] I don't know that jumping through Neptune
[11:09] actually exhibited any knowledge, but...
[11:13] Pretty sure you can't just jump through Neptune.
[11:17] It was a really weird sentence,
[11:19] so that counts for something.
[11:21] It was memorable.
[11:23] It was, it was.
[11:25] And we found out that scientists were still debating
[11:31] whether there's rocky cores at the center of gas giants.
[11:34] My favorite part of that was the roiling liquid metal sea.
[11:39] Yeah.
[11:40] That was my favorite part.
[11:41] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:42] That was why it's so magnetic.
[11:44] That's why there's no probes.
[11:45] Yeah.
[11:46] That's awesome.