Stumpy

[00:06] Oh, we doing under Google rules that was the player super excited told us we had to
[00:17] say we said we signed up for it in the end it's gonna be better and more true
[00:25] than Google can give you does anybody know why Reggie wore number 31 and when
[00:33] did he first pick that number is anywhere that in college you guys know and be like
[00:39] in high school pretty sure you were in college don't I just saw a picture of me
[00:47] UCLA the other day trying to I want to say this goes back to like he wanted to
[00:54] wear 13 maybe or something but like the school had retired his sister's number
[01:04] something oh no they feel like it's something associated with that now then
[01:10] they play at different schools different colleges well yeah but I mean I'm talking
[01:15] like like elementary school's retire numbers do they yeah share a Miller
[01:23] plays basketball yeah you do you retire her number was somebody quadruple doubles
[01:27] up in your house retire the number that's right oh but other than that I don't know
[01:34] that's my best guy feels I don't even know if that's true so pretty sure you
[01:39] wore 31 in college okay so it's it is like you know if you reverse the digits it's
[01:46] the opposite of the unlucky number mm-hmm also prime number hmm maybe super into
[01:56] prime numbers just a math nerd yeah yeah it's quite possible were there other
[02:02] famous number 31s prior to Reggie Miller that he would have been wanting to
[02:07] emulate like was Jerry West like he was 44 right or something
[02:14] Maravich Pete Maravich and if he were see I look I feel like Reggie didn't
[02:23] really care about the history of the game when he was growing up he cared
[02:27] about like beating his sister like I think he right he's he is a student of
[02:31] the game he knows a bunch about basketball but like I feel like when
[02:34] you're picking your number it's really not about it's not about the NBA or
[02:39] whatever I think it's probably more about his family there are not a lot of
[02:44] famous 31s and in basketball there's a bunch of baseball players and like
[02:50] Cedric Maxwell hmm so maybe his sister wore 30 and he was like I'm gonna wear
[02:57] 31 better maybe it's a higher number might have big been a big Grant Furr fan
[03:10] Grant Furr I don't know who Grant Furr is that guy was a fur fur the abuser he was
[03:26] a NHL goalie okay sure oh yeah yeah my man oh that Grant Furr so he did wear
[03:40] 31 at UCLA all right ah I believe that uh okay we're all right what according to
[03:50] the basketball network net they have a page called NBA players why they way why
[03:57] they pick their jerseys nice Reggie Miller according to the site war number
[04:02] 31 because it was the bad luck number 13 reversed well done Joey and also his
[04:09] sister wore this number his sister I think she was 31 13 it's the it's hard to
[04:18] tell the way they phrase it my guess is she wore 13 okay I think she did
[04:25] yeah we can look up what Cheryl Miller's number was no she's 31 31 okay well
[04:32] shit that's awesome so he's honoring his sister that's a surprising homage from
[04:37] him yeah that's actually that's really cool that's that's so opposite of number
[04:44] 13 and also honoring a sister probably more honoring a sister I think I'd heard
[04:50] that in the past at some point I did find in high school he wore number five
[04:54] and I don't know why but well that's a different under Google yeah well he just
[05:01] kind of said how the question was like how far back is he when did he first pick
[05:05] number 30 so high school I guess could know college college he wore he wore
[05:09] five which is three plus one right in your book okay so no it's probably what
[05:19] that is it's it's a four point play plus also a lane violation now he drew a
[05:26] technical foul oh nice the old five-point play yep all right all right and the
[05:38] last question he's got here is when did the Pacers retire his number oh we know
[05:45] this do you know that I mean I did so it was it was whatever so he retired 2004
[05:52] yeah or 2004 2005 season so oh five oh five so he retired no five they would
[06:04] have immediately done the ceremony for him right yeah I think oh six yeah the
[06:10] yeah it was like the first home game of the next season right great which would
[06:13] have been oh five oh five no yes October oh five right and then he goes into the
[06:26] Hall of Fame how many years later what's the thing five five years and he was he
[06:36] got it in the first year he was eligible right I feel like he waited a
[06:41] year I don't think I think he waited a year for some reason they didn't at all
[06:46] due to the beginning of the season they did at the end of the next all right at
[06:53] the end of the next season yeah all right okay did he start broadcasting the next
[06:57] season yes I think so they may have done it like when he had his when he had a
[07:03] gig in town okay so he retired after the 2004 2005 season so we were right on
[07:15] that and yeah he waited basically a full almost a full year then full year I
[07:23] think that's what it was I believe he they basically waited so I if I
[07:32] remembered this correctly they waited till he had his first broadcasting
[07:35] assignment in Indy I see so we made it easy for him to come back well he was
[07:44] like already here business by other teams to come out of retirement that
[07:48] first season they were trying to get the other yeah the Celtics trying to get him
[07:51] to come back and there was some debate whether he would or not because he could
[07:54] have swore they were getting them yeah he yeah for sure I don't think it's
[08:02] off because they're like we're not gonna retire this dude's number while he's
[08:05] still playing right if he's wearing another teamster maybe they should have
[08:10] preemptively done it just to shame him into not doing it well he made that
[08:15] decision he's he's a bit of a contrarian that would be pretty awesome to have your
[08:21] jersey retired in the rafters while you're playing against them and so
[08:30] imagine Jordan did that oh yeah maybe okay so he went into the hall fame on
[08:38] September 7th 2012 so if the five-year thing works he waited at least a year
[08:50] maybe two I don't know when the voting happened yeah it's probably just a year
[08:55] I think it's like six months before you actually go in sort of thing UCLA
[09:02] didn't retire his number until 2013 January and they're like oh he went
[09:07] into the hall of fame we should probably retire his jersey go that guy
[09:10] went here I want to know how many people were number 31 on for UCLA after he
[09:21] retired only one player Ed O'Bannon ah was that Indiana governor Ed O'Bannon
[09:34] yeah probably so I believe he's the only guy that had that number after Reggie oh
[09:50] and it looks like it's also retired oh no is that possible what they don't work
[10:02] so you're saying that they were tired the the jersey number twice yes I don't
[10:08] think they understand what Jersey retirees are they retired Ed O'Bannon's
[10:12] number in 1996 and he was 31 and they retired Reggie's number 31 in 2013 what
[10:20] man I guess that makes no no it doesn't make sense I mean I understand logically
[10:28] no so what happened is Reggie played and then Ed O'Bannon played Ed O'Bannon
[10:33] played from 91 to 96 his jersey retired like a year after he finished in 96
[10:38] at that point their jerseys retired right so 31's been retired sure but they
[10:45] didn't let somebody play it afterwards right but I had nothing to do with Reggie
[10:49] Miller and then Reggie Miller retires and like oh let's double up on 31 I mean
[10:54] the jersey number is already retired so why do you have to do another jersey
[10:57] retirement because he went to the Hall of Fame and you feel stupid that you
[11:00] let Ed O'Bannon wear it you know Ben and had a well Ed O'Bannon also had a
[11:04] very good college career you know you know you know what I gotta say about
[11:08] Ed O'Bannon suck at Ed O'Bannon Wow what about Frank O'Bannon you okay with him
[11:16] you know what is suck at Frank O'Bannon you're not retiring Miller's jersey
[11:21] you're tying the number right right it's not like nobody named Reggie Miller can
[11:25] now play for UCLA why did you re-retire the numbers my point did they re-retire
[11:32] the number or did they just retire for Ed O'Bannon listen they should have
[11:37] retired it after Reggie played but they didn't and then later they realized
[11:41] their mistake and there was already two at that point there are two players that
[11:45] they thought were deserving of having their number retired they happen to
[11:48] have the same number two birds one stone UCLA has totally botched this this
[11:56] is ridiculous I am what let's I'm gonna learn about some Ed O'Bannon O'Bannon is
[12:09] the lead plaintiff in O'Bannon versus NCAA and antitrust class-action lawsuit
[12:13] against the National College Athletic Association which resulted in the
[12:19] discontinuation of NCAA video games Wow ooh yeah actually I've heard this
[12:25] series Planet Money did a story on him yeah I mean he what you want to title his
[12:32] senior he basically now has resulted in players being able to benefit or profit
[12:40] from their likenesses use of their likeness yep and this is why you hate
[12:45] him Coalson no I'm just saying I don't understand why he would take Reggie's
[12:51] number because it wasn't retired get it retired and then I'm not mad at loved
[12:57] Reggie Miller I'm not I'm not mad on a guy for 11 Reggie Miller I'm actually not
[13:01] mad at Ed O'Brien I am or Ed O'Bannon I'm not mad at Ed O'Bannon I'm mad at UCLA
[13:11] for totally botching this it took them until 2004 to retire Gail Goodrich took
[13:23] them till 1990 to retire Karima Duljibar what are they doing who is Gail Goodrich
[13:29] like one of these one of the great NBA players of all time I mean he's
[13:35] definitely the best I mean I'm gonna go out and say he's the best one I haven't
[13:37] heard of the best Gail ever he's not even the best professional Gail he played
[13:45] for the Lakers and the Jazz he was a five-time all-star three-time all third
[13:55] all-time scorer among lefties in NBA history the Lakers retired his number 25
[14:08] jersey so there's that bang he was good leave me alone what are the Gail played
[14:17] in the NBA oh no I was thinking of Gail Sayers I'm just saying professional
[14:22] sports at large sure not at all the most memorable Gail fair enough Gail Goodrich's
[14:29] nicknames are stumpy and the stump ooh variations of a theme I like it I'm I am
[14:40] going to write UCLA a strongly worded letter about the O'Bannon Reggie Miller
[14:47] debacle see what happened CC stumpy stumpy average 25 point three points a
[14:56] game 73 74 season he played under wooden huh he's got a title you know it was dumb
[15:04] about Reggie's Jersey was when we had Brad Miller and they had to put our
[15:08] Miller and be Miller like we couldn't tell that they were different people
[15:13] right right and yeah Reggie had been there for 16 years it was like he was
[15:20] half a hundred pound difference but could barely tell apart different skin
[15:26] color different physical makeup different number like positions we were
[15:31] lucky we're gonna get them confused yeah yeah they should have made Brad just
[15:37] where Brad on the back actually you don't get your name can we get people
[15:43] to take pictures of their arm Miller Jersey and send those in because I like
[15:49] that I'd like to see some arm Miller jerseys I remember that you're gonna make
[15:51] a montage of the arm I like this I like this era well and one one other thing
[15:56] from from Andrews question is he's asking is the under google podcast
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[17:30] would say that's right